12 month old showing too much civil, any suggestions? - Page 5

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 The dog is good but the handler sucks, this is a very strong dog need a  experienced and proper handler.

 Also the training sucks no  real  preasure  but I,m  sure  this dog can take good preasure in real life situations.
 
 That is what I see today too much most of the police  handlers this days can,t control the real  serious  dogs
 its very sad.



 

OP. You state that you and your helper have decide to stay in prey. That's great, but the point you've missed is that the dog was taken to defense by you guys. If I take a dog to a park and play Frisbee, I don't expect the dog to be in any other drive.

chaz, exactly...... I was completely surprised. she had been working in prey and then all of a sudden wen to civil. Surprised the both of us..

Well, either your helper is doing something you both don t realize or shes a hormonal bitch. Bitches are unpredictable.

Chaz, I did what I always do.....
I sent her to a trainer friend of mine for a couple of months - he's great with pups this age and can get her back on the right track. He's helped me out before and done a very good job. I see her once a week. I'd rather swallow my pride, then ruin another one...

Duke, is having lots of civil drive in a 1 year female a good problem to have. Because down the road when you begin to add more and more pressure it will soon fade?

If the dog is SL im betting its insecurity.  Almost all the showline females around here act "civil" in protection.  Some will even bite for real however they will all bale if the helper uses to much pressure.  Helper has to be very careful developing these dogs especially when they are young.  You can believe the dog is still in prey but the smallest things can create insecurity, stick touch, body position etc.  Not easy dogs to work..

Dogs don't usually switch drives if their environment or stimuli have not been changed. Dogs switching drives during grip work is helper motivated. Helper body position, eye contact, pressure and manipulation of the sleeve. The handler during grip work especially in the beginning is very little input. Praise from the handler is all that is needed, you are a post. Everything I have said can only be confirmed with watching a video. Without watching, it's all a guess.  When the heper presents full body to a dog, this can be intimidating and switches the dogs drive. All sleeve presentations to new and young dogs should be with side presentation, motion and going away. Keeping the training in prey.

Kyle