Opinions on this pedigree.
thank you

The pedigree is just a component of the overall dog. You have to look at the dog and see if it's representative of the pedigree and determine if it's a dog you like. Their are certain dogs in a pedigree that are desirable and undesirable. You have to know what traits suit you and if those traits are represented.

thank you, I know the pedigree and have worked the dog, super nice dog. Very clear headed dog great on an off switch. All around outstanding dog

You're off to a good start. You have a dog you like and know the pedigree. Just remember the pedigree as you meet other dogs you like and compare yours to theirs. I'll bet you see a pattern of similar dogs in the pedigrees.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2105164-kebehsenuf-leryka
since earlier it didn't go through.....

It's certainly a very open pedigree, with no linebreeding until you get into the 8th generation--and even then, it's limited to just 3 dogs with excellent reputations [Mutz Pelztierfarm, Marko Cellerland and Ajax Haus Dexel].  Such a pedigree gives you many options as far as use of the dog to cover bitches that are heavily linebred.

The line breeding on PDB  only works on 2 dogs with the same dogs the their own ped. What it does not take into account what the parents are line bred on.So there is line breeding. Just not in a traditional way.


Emilka is line bred..

• 4 - 5............................................. in Zar z Pohranicní straze CS
• 3 - 4............................................. in SG Iro z Pohranicni straze CS
• 4 - 5............................................. in Elza z Pohranicni straze CS

Branko is line bred

3 - 5............................................. in V Fero vom Zeuterner Himmelreich
3 - 5............................................. in V Askia vom Froschgraben

 

Thanks Paul 

No, the subject dog himself is NOT linebred until the 8th generation, because there are no shared ancestors on BOTH sides of his lineage until you get to the 8th generation. Yes, both the sire and dam of the dog in question have a significant amount of linebreeding behind each of them, but the dog in question is the result of an outcross breeding

Inbreeding coefficient / Ancestor loss coefficient

The IC for this pairing is 0% and the number of generations taken into account is: 123456789

The ALC for this pairing is 86.22% and the number of generations taken into account is: 123456789

Line breeding

Number of generations: 123456789

Independently of the completeness of the pedigree, no line breeding was found.

The above information comes from the working-dog.eu calculator, which could not compute the COI [IC] and linebreeding for the subject dog beyond 7 generations due to incomplete information beyond that point.  So, to reiterate, the subject dog has an open pedigree with NO linebreeding until the 8th generation as calculated using the PDB information, and none through the 7th generation per working-dog.eu.  His parents are each, independently of the other, linebred, but they share no common dogs until you reach the 6th generation on both sides.

most of these calculations are based on Wright's coefficient of relatedness, or kinship, which by definition accounts for only common ancestors as the result of the target pairing. the generalization of that coefficient to capture line breeding per se is erroneous, as paul's example clearly illustrates, and was eluded to by Sewell Wright himself, e.g., http://goo.gl/I8Bkjv. just to be very clear: Wright's method captures the degree of kinship, i.e line/in-breeding, as the result of the pairing and a coefficient value of zero merely implies that no line breeding was introduced as the result of the pairing but says nothing about what's already in play. 

if you want to express all line breeding relations as a coefficient, you need to use the Hardiman method instead, e.g., http://goo.gl/7gRsJC or http://goo.gl/R0GxBp​ for a dog-related reprint. also, you could use fixation indices even though n=2 makes it a bit tricky, e.g., http://goo.gl/lhH5Rl. personally, i think the Garrison, aka pencil & paper, method is rather elegant and sufficiently powerful to express all line breeding instances for a given subject of interest.