Judging drive at the - Page 1

Judging Drive at the Bark and Hold
Interesting video:


http://youtu.be/CCqeYTjR3IM

what i thought would have been an excellent topic for discussion, oh well, back to moaning about something the WUSV organizers either haven't done yet or something they have.

Yes I was hoping for some opinions on that video. So far people seem uninterested. Disappointing.

fwiw (all guessing), and i don't do schuts, the author clearly believes in her opinions as defining the correct drives. do all judges agree, i think not.  some make a big deal about dog sticking head in all blinds, some don't, some rate the rhythmic barking and the bouncing some don't so much. some want a dog torquing the decoy to the ground some want it to hang on the sleeve like excess baggage  personally from what i have seen of schuts training which is totally optimal for the drills is that what the author wants to see would be difficult due to the routines themselves and the predictability of them for the dog and the specific training.

i think to get what the author wants you would have to do something else with the dog, ie create an environment of uncertainty in the dog's mind and see the dog's responses and recovery, hardly what will happen at a trial.

all just guessing here.

It all comes down to what I call "focused intensity". I've seen dogs trained to bark and hold using a ball at the blind. If the same dogs are not with time made to be more serious at the blind the picture just does not look right. 

I like this young dog's B & H at the blind and on the field:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONEOK3s22i4


 

I don't really care to debate one judge's opinion on something that has been talked around and around and around and around forever.  Get your dog to bark.  I don't care if it's thru frustration and prey or aggression and defense.  It's the 2nd thing they do besides the search.  I have a bunch of other exercises to determine what a dog is made of.  It's just one little piece.

intense for sure, for me the spell was broken with the B&H as the all telling insight into the "soul of the dog" when i first saw decoys with a sleeve on one arm and a bite pillow kong behind their back in the other, the dog was going nuts for sure but it was for the reward of the pillow/tug/kong while the sleeve and man was just and artifact in the equation.

was this dog i saw, intense, off the scale for sure, but what was the basis for the intensity. it's like the dog fancy heeling awaiting the tug/ball to be produced at the next step, next one, next one. it is a classically trained illusion of power and focus.

also seen decoys in the blind the one correcting and commanding the dog.

when the "bad guy" corrects with prong and rewards with kong to train "protection" ya really got to wonder what you are actually seeing.

all just my uneducated opinon.

vk4gsd,

Yes but a good opinion. Much appreciated.