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by bigbrotherswatchingyou on 15 January 2007 - 05:01
i have a newborn that was born with half a tail but yet off to the side seems to be part of it also almost like the pup didnt have room to grow it all the way out i dont know anyone experience this before?
by VomFelsenHof on 15 January 2007 - 05:01
Are you saying the tail is hooked on the end? I wasn't sure WHERE exactly "off to the side" was?
I've seen tails that were not completely correctly formed in litters from two other breeders, both from older sires. I do not know if this is due to the sire's age, or just some defect that caused the pup not to grow quite right.
Maybe some other people have more in-depth knowledge or personal experience and can answer with a bit more detail?
by bigbrotherswatchingyou on 15 January 2007 - 06:01
well lets see if i can explain when look at the pup from behind it looks like a docked tail but then you lift it a little and you see another little hard tiny nub coming out of the side of what is left of the tail it looks like there was no room to grow for the pup the female and the male have no history of defects the pup is strong and nursing well this is the first time however these two mated
by corieone on 15 January 2007 - 06:01
That sort of thing can happen due to the tail not having room to grow properly. I have not seen it in shepherds but I did see it in a litter of dobes years and years ago. The puppy will probably be fine but you will want to talk to the vet in case they need to dock it shorter than it is. They like to do that within a couple days so it is easy on the puppy.
Good luck!!
by hexe on 15 January 2007 - 06:01
Have this pup seen by your vet ASAP...given the malformation of the tail, you need to determine whether or not there are additional defects involving the spine (since the tail is actually an extension of the spine)and possibly the pelvis as well. If the pup's pelvis is not correctly formed at this stage, it's not going to improve, and it would be far better to let him cross the Bridge at this young age than to endure what would be in store for him further down the road.
Developmental defects such as you describe are more common with older studs and/or older dams, but can happen in virtually any litter.
by yellowrose of Texas on 15 January 2007 - 07:01
one thing about a shorter tail , wont knock near as many things off the coffee table.....check to see if he is able to do his business, sometimes there is no anal opening...check that immediately....
by BUZZ on 15 January 2007 - 16:01
This has nothing to do with age of dog or bitch,it is simply the way the puppy has been laid in the womb and how it has developed.We have a puppy now who has a bend on the end of its tail,it will staighten and will bend one way but not the other.I went into great detail with the vet over this and she was'nt concerned at all,she said that it is just how the puppy has been laid.However i must stress ours has got a full tail
by hexe on 15 January 2007 - 19:01
Buzz, there's a significant difference between your pup's *bent* tail and what bigbrother is describing--your puppy's tail developed completely; what bigbrother describes is an actual birth defect, which is why I want him to have the vet see this pup and determine to what degree the spinal development was affected. What your pup has certainly has nothing to do with the age of the parents, but actual developmental defects most certainly do.
by EchoMeadows on 16 January 2007 - 07:01
Yellowrose is absolutely correct !!
Many tail malformations or underdevelopments also couple with NO ANAL Opening, and or Underdeveloped BOWLES !!
Please Please make sure this pup can do his business correctly. and Hexe is also correct it is important to have this pup checked ASAP by a vet, There could be more "underdevelopments" that are not easily seen like the obvious tail.
Good Luck, and keep us posted.
by PowerHaus on 16 January 2007 - 07:01
Maybe the sperm had a deformed tail! It's jenetic!
Just kidding, I couldn't resist though!
Vickie
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