http://www.k9-pines.com/germanshepherds_Helga.html

http://www.k9-pines.com/germanshepherds_Mortzart.html

is it possible these are really brindle gsd's?  

 

Looks like they have every weird color a shepherd might accidently come in. In fact the only color they are missing is the merle so we should hook them up with that black merle shepherd so she can start another line! Some funky looking dogs on that site and not a single mention of OFA, Penn Hip or title of any sort to be seen. I think she sounds like a BYB.
Oh BYW they are AKC registered! So that make them all better because we know AKC only registers purebred dogs.
Seriously look at her face book page, she most be producing a litter a month over there. Hundreds of puppies to look at.
Fry

Oh me, oh my! 

Actually, in all fairness to the Blue dogs ,most are out of OFA and Penn Hip parents and grandparents.
One of the lines the blues and livers are out of come from Kerstones Shepherds who also DM tests ALL her dogs.
They actually compete and show their dogs. One blue is UKC champion.
If you actually look at the pedigrees of the blues and livers, they are out of the EXACT SAME dogs many others are using in their breeding programs.
There is a woman in Louissiana that also breeds the blue and liver dogs, that ALSO has ALL her breeding stock, OFA'd and DM tested.
Not everyone that breeds these freak dogs (according to some) are doing it hap-hazardly.
Some take just as much pride in their dogs as those breeding conventional, acceptable colors.
I really do find it particularly odd, how some of the 'superior' breeders never get the dilutes. THEY HAVE THE SAME BLOODLINES AS THE CLASSICS....
YEAH,IT~S EASY TO POINT OUT THOSE BREEDING FOR THESE COLORS AND LABEL THEM ALL AS UNCONSCIENABLE PEOPLE.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE EQUAL NUMBERS OF ~WITHIN THE STANDARD~ THAT CARE MORE ABOUT THE MONEY THAN THE DOGS.
YEAH, I should keep my mouth shut on the subject, but I can't.
It is really just pure ignorance when some say the color makes for a lessor dog .
And I think also,every showline breeder that just wants redder and redder dogs, is just as guilty of breeding for more money...

Crap in crappier out.

Von- FIRST OF ALL, I am not taking up for the breeders, I am stating my opinion on the BLUE dogs,
And second- who the hell do you think you are . I could give a rats ass what you think about what I find acceptable.
IF I wanted to be breeding blue dogs, you can believe I would be breeding blue dogs ,
And I hate to clue you, but I have seen some blue and liver dogs come out of far better dogs than you have sitting in your yard now....
You have called me a liar here before, stating there was no way I could get blue,out of WHAT I DID GET BLUE OUT OF,
You can believe I will lose no sleep over what YOU think about me.
Now it's pretty obvious WHY Russ spoke to you the way he did, because as far as I am concerned,
You wouldn't know a good dog if it bit you in the ass....
So, how you like me now???
AND, as a side note, I myself would not buy a dog from Alpine, nor would I ever refer someone there.
I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM,Personally

    I don't know Kerstones, but it appears she takes great pride in her dogs...{these dogs are mostly the frowned upon colors}

 

To see KERSTONE dogs in the OFA database click here!
 
 

CONFORMATION CHAMPIONS / GRAND CHAMPIONS

UKC Ch. Kerstone's Heart of Africa, TT, HIC, PennHIP .30/.41, OFA Ca/Th
UKC Ch. Kerstone Regalwise Rolls-Royce, HIC, OFA H&E prelims
UKC Ch. Kerstone's Twist And Shout
UKC Ch. Kerstone You've Got Mail
IABCA Int'l Ch. Kerstone's Aristocrat, OFA
UKC Ch. Regalwise Dot Com Kerstin, CGC, TDI, HIC, OFA H&E, MDR1
UKC Ch. Regalwise Orion, HIC, OFA H&E, PennHIP .19/.19
UKC/IABCA Int'l Ch. Regalwise Oreo, TT, HIC, OFA H/E/Ca/Th, MDR1, PennHIP .29/.29, GSDCA Health Merit
UKC Ch. Regalwise Gloriana, OFA
UKC Ch. Flo-Lo Dark Fortune, OFA H&E
BIMBS/RBIMBS UKC Ch. Regalwise O'Riley, OFA H&E
UKC Ch. Regalwise Noble Denver Alpha, OFA H&E, MDR1 n/n
UKC Ch. Regalwise Irene, OFA
UKC Ch. Regalwise Tetris, OFA H&E
UKC Ch. Regalwise Karissa, OFA H&E
UKC Ch. Regalwise Rahab v Knightenhaus, OFA H&E
UKC Ch. SteelCross Sunny Skies Special Secret, HIC, OFA H&E, PennHIP
UKC Ch. SureFire Stella Blue Starr, OFA H&E, PennHIP
UKC Ch. U-WP SureFire Kanaka Kona, CGC, HIC, OFA H&E
 
 

DOGS WITH PERFORMANCE TITLES

Kerstone Twinpath Intoxicating, RN
UKC Ch. U-WP SureFire Kanaka Kona, CGC, HIC, OFA H&E
 
 

DOGS WITH CANINE GOOD CITIZEN, THERAPY DOG INTERNATIONAL, HERDING INSTINCT TESTED, ETC.

UKC Ch. Regalwise Dot Com Kerstin, CGC, TDI, HIC, OFA H&E, MDR1
Regalwise Krieger, CGC, TDI, HIC, MDR1
UKC/IABCA Int'l Ch. Regalwise Oreo, TT, HIC, OFA H/E/Ca/Th, MDR1, PennHIP .29/.29, GSDCA Health Merit
UKC Ch. Regalwise Orion, HIC, OFA H&E, PennHIP .19/.19
Spalding's Front Page News, HIC, OFA H&E prelims, OFA Ca/Th, PennHIP .43/.46
UKC Ch. Kerstone's Heart of Africa, TT, HIC, PennHIP .30/.41, OFA Ca/Th
UKC Ch. Kerstone Regalwise Rolls-Royce, HIC, OFA H/E/Ca, MDR1 n/n, CERF
UKC Ch. U-WP SureFire Kanaka Kona, CGC, HIC, OFA H&E
 
 

DOGS WITH LEGS TOWARD PERFORMANCE TITLES

UKC Ch. Regalwise Dot Com Kerstin, CGC, TDI, HC, OFA H&E, MDR1
- 1 leg towards AHBA HCT title
Regalwise Krieger, CGC, TDI, HIC, MDR1
- 1 leg towards AHBA HCT title
UKC/IABCA Int'l Ch. Regalwise Oreo, HIC, OFA H/E/Ca/Th, MDR1, GSDCA Health Merit Excellent
- 1 leg towards AHBA HCT title
 
 

DOGS WITH POINTS TOWARD CHAMPIONSHIPS

UKC/IABCA Int'l Ch. Regalwise Oreo, HIC, OFA H/E/Ca/Th, MDR1, GSDCA Health Merit Excellent
- 4 CAC-US certificates towards ARBA Championship (need 9 total)
Bjarne's Limelight Illusion
- 40 points towards UKC Championship
Regalwise Noble Denver Alpha, OFA H&E prelims, PennHIP .32/.40
- 95 points, 2 majors towards UKC Championship
 
 
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K9 pines does appear to breed for odd colors and I also wondered about health screening.  I really wanted to know if it was possible for the brindle dogs to be pure gsd's?

gg-you are absolutely right that this breeder seems to be interested in 'nothing but' the odd colors.
From the looks of them, 100% puppy mill. I would buy nothing from them.
I also would like to know the truth of the brindles. They could be for real, when you breed that many pubs, certainly ups the odds of producing one.
Shot, if the odds are a million to one, they certainly got a leg up on that.
There just is absolutely no need to breed dogs like that, other than greed!
My point was, some great dogs have, and do produce the odd colors.
IT is so un necessary to constantly brittle the dogs of different colors.
I don't consider them disease or any lesser of a Germs Shepherd. It is a fault, in the show ring.
Do you know black bears produce the the dreaded blue bear. Only difference, it is rare, it is there, by natures doing, no one made some great big mistake, unless you say God made an error.
Blue-Black bears are cherished and protected. Not stuffed in s bucket of water, and denied its existence. Ignorance does that...