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by Jeffs on 16 July 2013 - 16:07

If Zimmerman had a trained Mali instead of a gun, Trayvon Martin would still be alive (with a few scars) and we would never have heard of Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin.

Not to get into the guilt or innocence or fault, but just saying, if he'd had a dog instead of a gun, George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin would be names unknown to the American Public.  And I think we would all be better off.

by jduskin on 16 July 2013 - 16:07

Or we'd be gearing about it because Zimmerman would be being sued and his dog being euthanized because he be deemed vicious. 

But I do agree that a dog is better than a gun!  The bad guy certainly couldn't take my dog out of my control.  The dog can get him before he has very good aim (unless they're trained and steady handed).  

by troopscott on 16 July 2013 - 16:07

We wouldn't all be better off because if he had a dog instead of a gun we would all be hearing how both he and his dog were racist. On top of that he was well within his right to do what he did. The hate revs probably would have still showed up. 

A god traine dog is the first line of defense for me and a gun is the last

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 16 July 2013 - 16:07

Zimmerman couldn't handle a working dog.

samael28

by samael28 on 16 July 2013 - 17:07

I doubt it would matter. The reason this case was known nationally is because of its political agenda.

If Zimmerman owned a ppd and Trayvon had still provoked him to the point of a bite the same political agenda could be raised. Especially the stigma already surrounding the GSD PDk9s of old used as riot control and stereotypes put on the GSD during those times still holds today as well as the stereotypes on there handlers. It would be another strike on our dogs instead of guns driven off of BS political Agenda.

Maybe a dog could have been enough of an deterrent for the attack to not take place and the boy could still be alive possibly.



Now, I like a protection trained dog as its an alarm, is a deterrent to violence both in presence and or on command, and the fact that if im doing something else the dog can be with other family members watching over them. However, dont think for one second Im not armed. Everyone in my home is trained on the firearms I own and are excellent marksmen.  
 

by joanro on 16 July 2013 - 17:07

The kid is the one who needed a good PPD by his side. Zimmerman probably would have shot the dog too, though. But maybe the dog could have gotten a good bite off Zimmerman 's a$$, first.....

VKGSDs

by VKGSDs on 16 July 2013 - 19:07

My dog's better than a gun for me for several reasons...
  • he's allowed places a gun is not (ex. I'm allowed to have him outdoors or in my vehicle at work, but no weapons are allowed on the campus)
  • he's had 5 years of training in protection, secondary obedience during protection, being socialized and exposed to know what is a threat and what's not whereas I've never owned a gun and would have to get one and practice with it for 5 years
  • he will wake and alert me to something, ready to respond, before I'm even fully awake let alone ready to fire a weapon
  • he can protect my house/property/vehicle without me there to "fire" him
  • he can't be stolen and misused because he protects himself
:)

dragonfry

by dragonfry on 16 July 2013 - 19:07

I think a dog is better then a gun because if you send the dog and relies that you have made a mistake you can hopefully call the dog off.
Bullets have terrible recall.
But both dogs and guns can be stolen, but only your gun can be used against you.
A trained dog might have been more then enough to prevent this whole horrible mess. Without ever touching each other.
What a mess they have made of this.
Fry

by Ibrahim on 16 July 2013 - 21:07

I am not aware of the names mentioned above and what the story is but I think I guess what went on. In my humble opinion it is not a civilized thing to carry a gun in your position except if your job is a policeman or the like. An ordinary person should never be allowed to carry or possess a gun. Gun is a lethal weapon meant to kill and no one has the right to endanger another's life by owning a killing tool.
It is the role of government to impose security and peace in society and defend a citizen against threats whether internal or external. It is not the individual mission to protect him/herself. I know that Americans think they have a unique situation and history for carrying and owning guns, well that is"bullshit" as Americans say. No one should be allowed to carry or own a gun in a civilized society, no one should feel he/she needs a gun, a gun is a killing tool either by intention or by mistake, in a modern civil country there is Police to take care of security and army to defend the country from outside possible threats.Think wider and you shall recognize owning a gun is a crime in itself to yourself, your family, your neighbors and to your locality, it is very strange when I hear you Americans talking about guns like you talk about toys.

Owning a work, a trained dog or installing a alarm system is the right thing to do in a healthy society. If you really think your society is not healthy, then you should research the reasons and address them as a whole society not individually, only assigned personnel by government should be allowed to enforce peace and security not Mr. and Mrs Jones.

Ibrahim

by vk4gsd on 16 July 2013 - 22:07

guns don't have to be used as lethal weapons???, they can be used to incapacitate as a first guess....or maybe not.
 





 


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