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allaboutthedawgs

by allaboutthedawgs on 06 January 2007 - 20:01

http://www.wolfpawk9s.net/index.html

This is nuts!  Oh, wait, it must be okay because these are "quality" wolves and Shepherds.  Aren't wolves still on the endangered or protected list?  If so, how can some one get by with cross breeding them?

And if they have this whole, "Dances with Wolves" thing going on, why would they want to dilute that "spirit" with a domesticated animal?

Check out the 7 month old SEVENTY POUND "shepalute"!  Yeah, I think it's a real good idea to have a 140 pound wolf cross in the hands of people who would pay good money for these things. Yikes!


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 06 January 2007 - 20:01

Yes and u go to prison if u steal a wolf or kill someones wolf if they are in captivity and at your premises, and owned by you,,,,,oh mix them with a shepherd and u get a desired pair....hahaha ...a man here bought a 4,000 mix from a place in South Carolina that advertised like this above, and he called me and asked" How do I train this dog, he wont mind and he wanders and he does this and that ...He spent 3,000 and sent it back to the people for their training that was a scam and he finnaly shot the dog when it attacked on of his 15year old kids.....Yuuk Americans are going to the doggggSSS......

DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 06 January 2007 - 20:01

Actually in Texas U have seen quite a number of people breeding dogs to wolves. Not a good thing. Most are very shy like wolves are, at least the ones I have seen.

by hodie on 06 January 2007 - 20:01

I believe it is illegal in Colorado to breed or own hybrid wolf mixes (one can get a permit for ownership but it is very difficult) and I would almost bet it is in Oregon as well. This is really irresponsible as anyone who knows why it is illegal, would understand the potential for serious problems. But people make a buck anyway they can.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 06 January 2007 - 20:01

Ur right Hodie, but in Texas I get sick any time someone asks me do u have any wolves in your sheppherds? A lady that lives in Alba recently lost 2 hybrid wolves to a neighbor who killed them both and that woman is in prison, The SHERIFF investigated and they tried her and shes in for I think, 30 years..dont understand why Texas allows an endangered species to be wildly bred to dogs and is suppose to be protected , and lets people own them, I guess with a permit. and that is why a felony was committed in this case...The dallas paper use to be filled with ads advertising wolf and shepherd mix pups and they get a fortune for them...money....talks......

by Do right and fear no one on 06 January 2007 - 21:01

I have researched it and find that it is a bad idea all around. Even though all dogs come from wolves, and wolves were used in the last hundred years in the developement of our beloved GSD's, it is being used stupidly all over the country. There is a place just down the street from me that "does it". Here is thier web site. http://www.bright.net/~k9s/ I have visited shelters that specialize in wolf hybrid rescues and all of those dogs are head cases, by normal human standards. Of course they are perfectly normal for a wolf's standard.

by GSDLVR on 06 January 2007 - 22:01

Anybody read the book or see the movie "White Fang"? As a child it made me want to go to Alaska, find some wolf cubs and bring one home. It's a lovely idea, but the reality when you grow up is you have this wild animal living in your house! I think I would still be less apt to have a pit bull than one of these, though (NOT that I want a wolf/shepherd mix!). It seems like there is always a Native American behind those breedings - most definitely because their ancestors had dogs that were part wolf and it seems natural to them. I actually used to have a gorgeous Alaskan Malamute I purchased from a breeder and a couple years later (before I had human children!), I took him to the breeders on a whim to visit his parents/grandparents etc. , and I saw a fenced in kennel area with what looked like about 6 real wolves in it. I think wolves are gorgeous and have always been fascinated by them so I asked if I could go in the cage with them. The man took me in and the 100% wolves were shy and didn't want anything to do with humans (especially the alpha male), but the biggest troublemaker was the hybrid. He was not at all afraid of humans, but had the wolf nature and would come right at me nipping the air all around me to intimidate me/test me to see if I was afraid. I would have rather had that alpha male pure wolf than him - he was a major liability if I've ever seen one. They are beautiful creatures, but they should probably be left in the wild. *And while we're on the frankenstein breeding subject, I also think Labradoodles, Goldendoodles and Dalmadoodles are WRONG! I'd take a wolf over those any day! LOL

by hodie on 07 January 2007 - 00:01

Sadly I am seeing more and more people who are purposely breeding mixed breeds when they do not even have a clue about one of the breeds they are using in those breedings. They call me asking to post here and of course, they are turned down. Lately I was contacted by someone who wanted to join our SchH club. They were a dog groomer and were creating a variety of mixes because they "thought" they could get the best out of the variety they were throwing into the mix, including pit bulls and other fighting dogs. It is no different than those advertising on this site who have dogs they want to "place" or sell outright who have done nothing but breed the dogs and now want to dump them. They also breed three different types of dogs and can refer you to a relative who breeds another breed too! How convenient. Great money I suspect. Piss poor ethics. We have several wolf sanctuaries in my state. They must meet very stringent requirements and the hybrids often are real problems and sometimes cannot be placed even in a sanctuary and then are destroyed. By the way GSDLVR, I agree with you about their beauty. I had a client who had a full blooded timberwolf who suddenly started limping. He somehow had a permit for this wolf from years ago. He brought this animal here to swim in hopes it would help him (before I suggested his lameness and debilitation might be bone cancer). The dog was huge and was quite stunning, even at 11 years old. But believe me, I was very, very careful around this animal as not only did he not trust me, he was hurting. Sadly the owner had to put him down soon after that first swim which he could not even do for 2 minutes (and I insisted we stop). In fact, he was diagnosed with bone cancer two days later. There is no justification for breeding animals that will spend a lifetime being considered dangerous and for whom there really are few legitimate homes. Sadly, in our state, many simply are put down. They are and belong in the wild.

allaboutthedawgs

by allaboutthedawgs on 07 January 2007 - 00:01

GSDlvr-I was in the airport one day waiting on my friend's flight and there was a lady who had just gotten her new puppy from it's flight. She called it a bullenese. It was a pekineese, french bulldog mix.  The poor thing looked like something Sid from the movie Toy Story had put together.  It was just so sad and freakish looking. This woman went on and on about this very expensive "designer dog" which the breeder had invented. I asked her what the heridetary weaknesses of the " breed" (read mutt) were and she said there were none.  She was deeply offended when I said that even long established breeds had certain physical faults they were prone to. She looked at me like I had three heads and stalked off.

There should be a law.


by hodie on 07 January 2007 - 01:01

Allaboutthedawgs, could not agree more, but money drives this insanity.





 


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