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Prager

by Prager on 06 May 2013 - 04:05

Another scientific study  of consequences of neutering and spaying and of why not to neuter your dog as a routine. If you read below you will see statistical consequences where HD  increased 3x in males who are neutered young and also significant increase of different cancers in males and females if spayed or neutered. .
 Thus anybody who is telling you that neutering is harmless is laying to you from ignorance or for financial gain. 


Quote from link below:
 In contrast to European countries, the overwhelming majority of dogs in the U.S. are neutered (including spaying), usually done before one year of age. Given the importance of
gonadal hormones in growth and development, this cultural contrast invites an analysis of the multiple organ systems that may be
adversely affected by neutering. Using a single breed-specific dataset, the objective was to examine the variables of gender and age at the time of neutering versus leaving dogs gonadally intact, on all diseases occurring with sufficient frequency for statistical analyses. Given its popularity and vulnerability to various cancers and joint disorders, the Golden Retriever was chosen for this study. Veterinary hospital records of 759 client-owned, intact and neutered female and male dogs, 1–8 years old, were examined for diagnoses of hip dysplasia (HD), cranial cruciate ligament tear (CCL), lymphosarcoma (LSA), hemangiosarcoma (HSA), and mast cell tumor (MCT). Patients were classified as intact, or neutered early (<12 mo) or late (≥12 mo). Statistical analyses involved survival analyses and incidence rate comparisons. Outcomes at the 5 percent level of significance are reported.Of early-neutered males, 10 percent were diagnosed with HD, double the occurrence in intact males.

Almost 10 percent of early-neutered males were diagnosed with LSA, 3 times more than intact males. The percentage of HSA cases in late-neutered females (about 8 percent) was 4 times more than intact and early-neutered females.
 There were no cases of MCT in intact females, but the occurrence was nearly 6 percent in late-neutered female  The results have health implications for Golden Retriever companion and service dogs, and for oncologists using dogs as models of cancers that occur in humans.C
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http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0055937
Prager Hans

by SitasMom on 06 May 2013 - 09:05

Sure wish they would do a study on German Shepherds too.

Prager

by Prager on 07 May 2013 - 14:05

Sitasmom the results may be different in GSD but I doubt that they would.  

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 07 May 2013 - 14:05

I am in agreement that environmental factors have a huge influence on puppy development and structural issues.  There is also research that hormones in the mothers milk can have influences on the puppies development ( The Dog and It's Genome ).  The dogs endocrine system and organs are influenced by the sexual hormones produced by the sex organs that get cut out with neutering.  Just like raw food and vaccines, many veterinarians give uninformed advice or advice that is weighted to maximize their profits.. 

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 07 May 2013 - 22:05

As someone who had a golden die from cancer and the HUGE problems associated with the breed to getting cancer, not sure I would take heart with the link between the two with this breed. I would be more apt to pay attention if they picked a breed that isnt known for dying of cancer then link their findings to hd. The research I found was that an approximate 60% of goldens will get cancer in their lifetime. Too high for me to link the two.

I will say that had someone neutered this guy I have now, who is 10 and not neutered, then we wouldn't be having the prostate problems we are having that have bee directly linked to his jewels being kept.

Barb

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 07 May 2013 - 23:05

BHaugh, that is an overall systemic problem; you can't say that keeping a body system that nature intended CAUSES problems. Environment, diet, genetics, etc. cause or influence the development of such problems.Having testicles is not the problem. Having a uterus in itself is not inherently dangerous. I can't say "Dammit, had I whacked off this problematic arm, I wouldn't be having these darn carpal tunnel problems." Wink Smile  We can't just remove everything that is prone to disease. Instead, we need to focus on creating overall healthier animals by genetics, environment, diet, etc. JMO. 

Prager

by Prager on 08 May 2013 - 05:05

As you can see there is not much of statistical difference between Golden Labradors and GSD's. And Besides that is not the point ,. ....there is still the multiple of HD and( Cancer ) between neutered and not neutered dogs which  should be same. Mathematically it should not make a difference. ​
Breed Number Registered Rank by Number Registered Percent of Total Registered Number with Cancer Rank by Number with Cancer Percent of Total with Cancer
Mixed Breed       1150 1 20.11%
Labrador Retrievers 154,616 1 17.46% 74 13 1.29%
Golden Retrievers 56,124 2 6.34% 561 2 9.81%
German Shepherd Dogs 46,963 3 5.30% 197 3 3.45%
Beagles 44,610 4 5.04% 105 10 1.84%
Dachshunds 42,571 5 4.81% 71 14 1.24%
Yorkshire Terriers 37,277 6 4.21% 43 21 0.75%
Boxers 34,340 7 3.88% 155 5 2.71%
Poodles 33,917 8 3.83% 178 4 3.11%
Chihuahuas 28,466 9 3.21% 18 38 0.31%
Shih Tzu 28,294 10 3.20% 86 12 1.50%
Miniature Schnauzers 23,926 11 2.70% 105 11 1.84%
Pomeranians 23,061 12 2.60% 10 45 0.17%
Rottweilers 22,196 13 2.51% 143 6 2.50%
Pugs 21,774 14 2.46% 32 24 0.56%
Cocker Spaniels 20,655 15 2.33% 125 8 2.19%
Shetland Sheepdogs 17,453 16 1.97% 140 7 2.45%
Boston Terriers 15,983 17 1.81% 52 20 0.91%
Bulldogs 15,810 18 1.79% 34 23 0.59%
Miniature Pinschers 15,230 19 1.72% 1 51 0.02%
Maltese 13,049 20 1.47% 25 32 0.44%
Siberian Huskies 12,350 21 1.39% 58 18 1.01%
German Shorthaired Pointers 12,174 22 1.37% 25 33 0.44%
Doberman Pinschers 11,829 23 1.34% 124 9 2.17%
Basset Hounds 10,789 24 1.22% 60 17 1.05%
Welsh Corgis (Pembroke) 9,921 25 1.12% 26 31 0.45%
Bichon Frises 9,706 26 1.10% 20 37 0.35%
English Springer Spaniel 9,128 27 1.03% 24 36 0.42%
Great Danes 8,975 28 1.01% 29 28 0.51%
Weimaraners 8,774 29 0.99% 25 34 0.44%
Brittanys 7,846 30 0.89% 41 22 0.72%
West Highland Terriers 7,814 31 0.88% 55 19 0.96%
Collies 6,252 32 0.71% 32 25 0.56%
Pekingese 5,822 33 0.66% 8 47 0.14%
Mastiffs 5,797 34 0.65% 12 41 0.21%
Australian Shepherds 5,789 35 0.65% 31 26 0.54%
Lhasa Apsos 5,259 36 0.59% 30 27 0.52%
Saint Bernards 5,188 37 0.59% 5 49 0.09%
Papillons 4,547 38 0.51% 4 50 0.07%
Chinese Shar-Pei 4,437 39 0.50% 61 16 1.07%
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel 4,028 40 0.45% 6 48 0.10%
Akitas 3,987 41 0.45% 10 46 0.17%
Chesapeake Bay Retriever 3,829 42 0.43% 15 39 0.26%
Cairn terriers 3,812 43 0.43% 29 29 0.51%
Scottish terriers 3,516 44 0.40% 71 15 1.24%
Newfoundlands 3,121 45 0.35% 11 42 0.19%
Vizslas 3,106 46 0.35% 25 35 0.44%
Bullmastiffs 2,900 47 0.33% 15 40 0.26%
Airdale Terriers 2,841 48 0.32% 29 30 0.51%
Bloodhounds 2,804 49 0.32% 11 43 0.19%
Great Pyrenees 2,773 50 0.31% 11 44 0.19%
             
Totals 885,429     4208    
From:
http://blog.embracepetinsurance.com/2010/05/rates-of-cancer-by-dog-breed.html

by joanro on 08 May 2013 - 09:05

Double post

by joanro on 08 May 2013 - 09:05

@ Jenni's post, removing problematic body parts seems to be the philosophy with dog owners for eons. Ears are chopped off guardians breeds, dew claws on the front feet are cut off the prevent injury on breeds that digging is a part of their work ( terriers, excavating a varmint's den), tails docked to prevent injury to them. All these body parts being removed are logical have have merit. But then whacking off testicles became vogue because, we are told, the dog we will die if he's allowed to keep them.....same thing with a bitch's uterus; leave it in and she dies...But at the same time, people are overfeeding their dogs causing obesity and the vets just treat the complications rather than tell the owner, your dog is TOO FAT.





 


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