Panda Shepherds - Page 1

If you are considering purchasing a panda shepherd, please make sure you receive a certificate of authenticity.  Otherwise, you do not have a real panda shepherd.

There are breeders out there who calling their shepherds panda shepherds when they are not.

What kennel club registers these dogs? Just wondering.

These dogs are registered as GSD in the USA with AKC, they descend from solid colored GSDs
​Maybe another club exists that registers them as something else?

GSD Lineage, I believe is right, however, you can contact the foundation breeder, who I might add has been raising GSD for 30 years. My concern at the moment is not that.  It is there are breeders out there saying they have pandas when they are not; atleast the puppies. They are referring to them as GSDs with panda colors, panda markings etc. That is not a panda shepherd. They, not just a parent must have certificate of authenticity from UC at Davis. 

Thank you Admin.  I placed my thread on the wrong forum. Thanks for correcting.

So, what you are saying is a purebred GSD with AKC registration and panda colouration is NOT a true panda, unless UC at Davis has certified it?

Or are you saying breeders are trying to pass off GSD mixes with panda colouration as genuine pandas?

Tt has been determined the 'original' panda, Frankie, had a mutated gene that was dominant for the panda markings. From what others on these forums have said, he is not the first GSD to have these markings. Another GSD popped up in Australia, and old timers have said they knew of litters with a panda pup, but the existence of these pups was quickly covered up. They were either culled, or given away as pets with no registration. (Owners were likely told they were mixed breeds to hide the fact they came from a purebred litter!)

You have to conclude this is either a mutation that has occurred more than once in the Shepherd gene pool, or there is a gene somewhere that codes for panda colouration, but is somehow masked (turned off) by another gene. Occasionally, something happens to the controlling gene, and the panda colour is switched on.

"Or are you saying breeders are trying to pass off GSD mixes with panda colouration as genuine pandas?"

sunny, I think you're onto something here.

Most Genuine panda

is this the orginal mutation or was there one before that http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=542954-lewcinkas-franka-von-phenom

Rik, that dog was the start of the current 'trend', where pandas became a separate colour classification within the GDS breed. However, I've heard several 'old timers' say they had either seen panda pups, or even produced a panda pup in a litter in the past. But back then, it was all kept quiet: shoot, shovel and shut up. Or if they allowed the pup to live, it was given away as a pet without papers. And of course, without papers, no one was ever going to believe it was a purebred GSD.

Heck, some people even refuse to believe Frankie was purebred, even though it's been carefully documented by DNA testing!

Let me see if I can find the link to the other panda, the one not related to Frankie. The owner even posted pictures here.