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by Mindhunt on 30 March 2013 - 20:03
Walking by the local Petland on our way to the new whole food store today only to see puppies in the windows in their cages and a big American Kennel Club banner with the AKC logo over a smaller sign advertising "Puppy Sale, bring home a bundle of joy today". The store was PACKED with people pointing to this and that puppy and asking their spouse/significant other/kid(s) which one do you want? The sound of cash registers ringing up puppy sales. Sigh ..........
The crap the clerks were spouting was mindblowing.......
- Yes all our puppies are AKC registered
- All our puppies come from reputable breeders (the semi backed up to the store before dawn this a.m. to unload cages of puppies according to a police officer parked behind the store finishing up paperwork) and this local Petland has been cited before for leaving crates of puppies in the back of a semi trailer in sweltering Florida heat for a few hours before someone managed to locate the manager to open up the store
- The prices are the going rate for these special puppies (teddy bear "a unique hybrid for today's family needs") went for $1999
- You don't need to take them to a trainer because it is such a small breed, just read this book by Cesar Milan and you can get a discount on it
- He isn't sick, he is just so excited to be going home with you and your children (4 small children were squealing and yanking on the leash and the poor pup was vomiting)
- Of course we support no-kill animal shelters and please feel free to donate here (a plastic water jug with a hand printed sign on it stating "Support NO KILL shelters")
- All our puppies are vet checked when we get them from the breeder so you don't have to waste your money to get another checkup, here is the form to fill out so we can send you his shot records
It was disheartening to see the local Petland supported by people who still haven't gotten the message about puppy mills..........
Oh well, rant is over
The crap the clerks were spouting was mindblowing.......
- Yes all our puppies are AKC registered
- All our puppies come from reputable breeders (the semi backed up to the store before dawn this a.m. to unload cages of puppies according to a police officer parked behind the store finishing up paperwork) and this local Petland has been cited before for leaving crates of puppies in the back of a semi trailer in sweltering Florida heat for a few hours before someone managed to locate the manager to open up the store
- The prices are the going rate for these special puppies (teddy bear "a unique hybrid for today's family needs") went for $1999
- You don't need to take them to a trainer because it is such a small breed, just read this book by Cesar Milan and you can get a discount on it
- He isn't sick, he is just so excited to be going home with you and your children (4 small children were squealing and yanking on the leash and the poor pup was vomiting)
- Of course we support no-kill animal shelters and please feel free to donate here (a plastic water jug with a hand printed sign on it stating "Support NO KILL shelters")
- All our puppies are vet checked when we get them from the breeder so you don't have to waste your money to get another checkup, here is the form to fill out so we can send you his shot records
It was disheartening to see the local Petland supported by people who still haven't gotten the message about puppy mills..........
Oh well, rant is over
by Ibrahim on 30 March 2013 - 20:03
Very depressing
by Hutchins on 30 March 2013 - 20:03
Mindhunt, I can totally relate.
Years ago I moved out of my state to accommodate my husband's transfer. After a few months home alone, I decided to get a job. Browsing through the Help Wanted ads I ran across an as that read similar to this, PUPPY CORRAL NOW HIRING. Ok, right up my alley. I visited the facilities and to my surprise it was very professional and appeared to be an exception to the rule as for as "Petshops" go. After a few weeks there and I proved myself as a trustworthy employee, the curtains began to come down. OMG, it is horrible the reality of what really happens behind the scenes of the puppy provider and puppy buyer. I was sickened to learn that entire litters at a time were brought to the store. Puppies that were barely eating on their own. Puppies that were kept in hiding to see who survived and who died. Many times we had to finish helping the puppies learn to eat on their own. Most puppies weren't even old enough to have shots. Depending on the breed, these puppies were bought for $50.00-$150.00 each. They were sold in the shop for $1000.00 - $2000.00 each. There was a Rott puppy that was extremely sick. that they just kinda set it aside to die. I asked to let me take it home and take care of it. They refused to allow me to do that because when it would die at the shop they could get a credit for it from the puppy mill, but if I took it home and it survived, they would loose the money spent on it. I even told them I would pay them what I knew they had paid for it that way they wouldn't loose out at all. Yet they still refused. With the replacement puppy they could sell it for alot more than what I was going to give them for the sick puppy. Its all about the almighty dollar. How sad it is. This is just a few examples of the many many horror stories I witnessed.
It is unbelievable the things they will say to sell puppies to people that have no clue about the puppy mill industry. All the while these people think that because its a business it is straight up and honest. Needless to say I did not last there very long as as time went on, it was harder and harder for me to remain quiet. I became more verbal which they didn't like very much. I ended up walking out one day, when I was told I needed to NOT be so honest when trying to sell a puppy. I was told I need to say whatever it will take to sell a puppy.
This was many years ago and I still think about all those babies in the cages. I have since heard that they were shut down as the original owners were run out of the city but they had other people running the business for them in the same exact location. They also moved their business to a neighboring state and was also run out of that town...
Ok, now I have rant enough also. But just so you know, PETSHOPS and PUPPY MILLS are one and the same. They go hand in hand. At least thats my opinion!
Years ago I moved out of my state to accommodate my husband's transfer. After a few months home alone, I decided to get a job. Browsing through the Help Wanted ads I ran across an as that read similar to this, PUPPY CORRAL NOW HIRING. Ok, right up my alley. I visited the facilities and to my surprise it was very professional and appeared to be an exception to the rule as for as "Petshops" go. After a few weeks there and I proved myself as a trustworthy employee, the curtains began to come down. OMG, it is horrible the reality of what really happens behind the scenes of the puppy provider and puppy buyer. I was sickened to learn that entire litters at a time were brought to the store. Puppies that were barely eating on their own. Puppies that were kept in hiding to see who survived and who died. Many times we had to finish helping the puppies learn to eat on their own. Most puppies weren't even old enough to have shots. Depending on the breed, these puppies were bought for $50.00-$150.00 each. They were sold in the shop for $1000.00 - $2000.00 each. There was a Rott puppy that was extremely sick. that they just kinda set it aside to die. I asked to let me take it home and take care of it. They refused to allow me to do that because when it would die at the shop they could get a credit for it from the puppy mill, but if I took it home and it survived, they would loose the money spent on it. I even told them I would pay them what I knew they had paid for it that way they wouldn't loose out at all. Yet they still refused. With the replacement puppy they could sell it for alot more than what I was going to give them for the sick puppy. Its all about the almighty dollar. How sad it is. This is just a few examples of the many many horror stories I witnessed.
It is unbelievable the things they will say to sell puppies to people that have no clue about the puppy mill industry. All the while these people think that because its a business it is straight up and honest. Needless to say I did not last there very long as as time went on, it was harder and harder for me to remain quiet. I became more verbal which they didn't like very much. I ended up walking out one day, when I was told I needed to NOT be so honest when trying to sell a puppy. I was told I need to say whatever it will take to sell a puppy.
This was many years ago and I still think about all those babies in the cages. I have since heard that they were shut down as the original owners were run out of the city but they had other people running the business for them in the same exact location. They also moved their business to a neighboring state and was also run out of that town...
Ok, now I have rant enough also. But just so you know, PETSHOPS and PUPPY MILLS are one and the same. They go hand in hand. At least thats my opinion!
by clc29 on 30 March 2013 - 22:03
OMG......Hutchins...your story made me physically ill.
Mindhunt.....This makes me very sad and angry at the same time
Unfortunately, I don't think the public is ever going to get it.
Our city recently reinstated the right for pet stores to sell puppies and kittens. Even though there was a large group of people (myself included) who fought against it. It was ultimately passed because it was seen as a good thing for the pet stores and the sales will bring tax revenues to the city. (I'm sure there was also some political elbows being rubbed).
Uugh....it just makes me sick.
Mindhunt.....This makes me very sad and angry at the same time
Unfortunately, I don't think the public is ever going to get it.
Our city recently reinstated the right for pet stores to sell puppies and kittens. Even though there was a large group of people (myself included) who fought against it. It was ultimately passed because it was seen as a good thing for the pet stores and the sales will bring tax revenues to the city. (I'm sure there was also some political elbows being rubbed).
Uugh....it just makes me sick.
by Bhaugh on 30 March 2013 - 22:03
Some years back I saw one of those semi trucks unloading puppies and that made me ill. Rows and rows of cages stuffed with dogs from a Petland none the less. The truth is people just don't want to get it. They see only what they want to and unless it affects them directly, most just don't care. Some people Ive even talked to take pride in buying from a petstore like they somehow "saved" the poor dog. Its sad and sick that until the dog they bought dies, life is all hunky doory.
Barb
Barb
by riverlandwhites on 30 March 2013 - 22:03
This is a horror! But what I keep asking myself - why do some naive people still run puppy mills? Not only that they risk huge fines when put at court, I see no way how these "breeders" can ever make reasonable money out of it. $50 per puppy, even if multiplied by ten, is not even enough to buy food for their parents over the year. Plus these people have to pay land tax for big properties, and set up cages and clean them, if they don't want their "producers" to die. Every school-kid can count on their five fingers that such a "business" will never make any profits. So what is their motive to do it at all? If there were no puppy millers the whole pet shop problem would disappear naturally. I believe the state governments should follow up on animal welfare issues with all the power of the law, to stop such mass-breeding right at the sources.
by Ruger1 on 31 March 2013 - 01:03
The longer I live the less I like humans,,
by dragonfry on 31 March 2013 - 09:03
I went to a Pet Industry trade show years ago as a vender (I was working for a lady that makes beautiful collars and dog accessories.) And i was warned that Hunte would be there and to please not speak to them. Hunte is one of the biggest puppy miller in the whole of the USA.
Well i was on my best behavior but i did ask a few simple question of the rep.
Are your breeders tested for genetic diaeses? Answer: No the public isn't interested in tested parents and our dogs are healthy.
What kinds of dogs do you offer? Most popular AKC breeds and many Designer dogs. :D
Who do you usually sell to? Anyone that wants to buy $XXXX amount of stock.
They are simply selling dogs like farmers grow corn. Filling a market nitch and pocketing the profits. Who cares if the dogs are healthy or sound. That's the pet Store's problem. Because once they accept the shipment unless the puppy dies they are not going to get reimbursement.
I've walked in pet stores to by bird food and the smell of PARVO sent me running back out the door. Now a days i don't shop anywhere that sell dogs or cats. Period.
Well i was on my best behavior but i did ask a few simple question of the rep.
Are your breeders tested for genetic diaeses? Answer: No the public isn't interested in tested parents and our dogs are healthy.
What kinds of dogs do you offer? Most popular AKC breeds and many Designer dogs. :D
Who do you usually sell to? Anyone that wants to buy $XXXX amount of stock.
They are simply selling dogs like farmers grow corn. Filling a market nitch and pocketing the profits. Who cares if the dogs are healthy or sound. That's the pet Store's problem. Because once they accept the shipment unless the puppy dies they are not going to get reimbursement.
I've walked in pet stores to by bird food and the smell of PARVO sent me running back out the door. Now a days i don't shop anywhere that sell dogs or cats. Period.
by Hutchins on 31 March 2013 - 10:03
riverlandwhite,
I think that the logical thinking with these puppymills is that they only see money coming in and not what is being put into the operation. The reason for that is probably because the way they operate. You have to remember, those operations are run with the very least amount of money possible being put INTO the upkeep of these poor dogs. Obvious from my experience, the mills do not vacainate, do not worm, and do not feed an even medium quality dog food. So if none of the above is done, please tell me, where is the expense on the "breeder's" part. THERE IS NONE!!! Its breed the adults, even some 6mo old puppies, have them nurse the pups till its time to "move them out". Thats why all the see is money coming in!! Such a sad sad way to earn a living, which many people think they can do. JMO
I think that the logical thinking with these puppymills is that they only see money coming in and not what is being put into the operation. The reason for that is probably because the way they operate. You have to remember, those operations are run with the very least amount of money possible being put INTO the upkeep of these poor dogs. Obvious from my experience, the mills do not vacainate, do not worm, and do not feed an even medium quality dog food. So if none of the above is done, please tell me, where is the expense on the "breeder's" part. THERE IS NONE!!! Its breed the adults, even some 6mo old puppies, have them nurse the pups till its time to "move them out". Thats why all the see is money coming in!! Such a sad sad way to earn a living, which many people think they can do. JMO
by Hutchins on 31 March 2013 - 11:03
Dragonfly, Just read your post about you running out the pet store at the smell of Parvo. When I was working at the "Puppy Corral", we were told to constantly spray the showroom with some kind of mixture they had made so the customers wouldn't smell the "Sickness" in the air. I am not sure what the spray consisted of as it was mixed there and came out of bottles that were not labled. Kinda makes me wonder now. Back than I never gave it a second thought. Just thought I would give it shot at my chance in the working world. 
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