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by Swifteagle on 27 March 2013 - 01:03
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would be so kind to help me out.
I am thinking of getting a pup from the following mating, both parents look very nice.
Breeding Result: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=750924&mother=619460
Can any one Please tell me how this mating looks in paper?
Any kind of feedback will be very much appreciated.
Thanks
I was wondering if anyone would be so kind to help me out.
I am thinking of getting a pup from the following mating, both parents look very nice.
Breeding Result: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=750924&mother=619460
Can any one Please tell me how this mating looks in paper?
Any kind of feedback will be very much appreciated.
Thanks

by BlackthornGSD on 27 March 2013 - 04:03
The pedigree is nice. What is it that you like about the parents? With no titles or hip/elbow info, it's hard to offer an opinion on them from afar. Pups should be high prey drive with good fight drive and moderate aggression.
Christine
Christine

by Swifteagle on 27 March 2013 - 05:03
Thanks Christine...
Good points you put forward. I am not sure why the info is not here, however here you have to have your dogs scored for the pups to have papers and these pups are going to have papers.
Both dogs have nice drives and are stable dogs. The owner has imported them both but does not work them, however a friend worked them and even though they have no training they were like fish to water. . It is a bit of a gamble, the female has produced very nice pups with another male, some serving for the state. Unknown what this two are going to produced.
Just wanted to learn more about the pedigree and how it looked.
Thanks for the info.
Can anyone else contribute? Thanks :)
P.S
Christine I know the female is high prey drive, confident and had shown good aggression.
Good points you put forward. I am not sure why the info is not here, however here you have to have your dogs scored for the pups to have papers and these pups are going to have papers.
Both dogs have nice drives and are stable dogs. The owner has imported them both but does not work them, however a friend worked them and even though they have no training they were like fish to water. . It is a bit of a gamble, the female has produced very nice pups with another male, some serving for the state. Unknown what this two are going to produced.
Just wanted to learn more about the pedigree and how it looked.
Thanks for the info.
Can anyone else contribute? Thanks :)
P.S
Christine I know the female is high prey drive, confident and had shown good aggression.

by Cullin Daggett on 27 March 2013 - 10:03
The pedigree is nice, but would like to see titles, and health certification before breeding

by ziegenfarm on 27 March 2013 - 16:03
i like it. like it a lot. :) even a mediocre pup out of this breeding will be better than the best out of some other breedings.
wish you luck :)
pjp
wish you luck :)
pjp

by Bhaugh on 27 March 2013 - 18:03
I'm confused.... If he doesn't work either dog in any venue and doesn't have health clearances, then why is he breeding other than for money? What country are you in?
Barb
Barb

by Swifteagle on 27 March 2013 - 20:03
@ ziegenfarm
Is there a particular reason why you like the pedigree, few dogs in particular? Thanks for your input
@ Cullin Daggett & Bhaugh
As mentioned before, The parents have to be healthy/tested to be able to obtain pedigree papers for the pups, so that has been covered. Both are healthy!
I am not sure they reasons why he does not train them, perhaps lack of time, may be he just wants pets, that I dont really know; all I know is that the dogs are very well looked after and he is into pedigrees.
To bring a dog to this country from Europe is about 15-18 thousand dollars, and I know it because few people at my club have done so. People like this guy are good to have around even if he doesn't work his dogs as we need healthy, stable and new bloodlines in this country.
I prefer not to say where I am at the moment, but it is far from Europe and with lots of regulations to brings dogs in, that leaves us with very little bloodlines compared to many parts of the world.
Does anyone else have something to point out on regards to Pedigree, That is what I would like to learn about. Few particular dogs or traits on this pedigree, That would be very much appreciated.
Regards

by ziegenfarm on 28 March 2013 - 02:03
bandit & karn--good nerves and clear head. mary--excellent producing bitch. probably one of pendel bachs's finest.
crok & mink--natural aggression, but brought in thru a female which is best in my opinion, especially where these dogs
are concerned. (linebred) troll--one of my personal favorites. balanced dog, eager to work, great attitude and comes
thru a good producing son in ajax. tom & ellute--very nice sport dogs. high prey drive. producers of sport dogs. darro--
goes back to some excellent "old" blood not found close-up these days. jabina females--known to be good sport dogs
and producers.
the reason i am not concerned over the lack of titles in the two dogs being bred is because they have no large holes in
their pedigree. they come from dogs who have already proven they can perform & produce. i have said in other posts,
titles are nice & prove the dog is trainable, but good production will be the future of the breed. dogs who cannot pass on
desireable traits do not insure the future. lots of good producers in this pedigree. i would expect some really nice pups
to come from it. :)
pjp
crok & mink--natural aggression, but brought in thru a female which is best in my opinion, especially where these dogs
are concerned. (linebred) troll--one of my personal favorites. balanced dog, eager to work, great attitude and comes
thru a good producing son in ajax. tom & ellute--very nice sport dogs. high prey drive. producers of sport dogs. darro--
goes back to some excellent "old" blood not found close-up these days. jabina females--known to be good sport dogs
and producers.
the reason i am not concerned over the lack of titles in the two dogs being bred is because they have no large holes in
their pedigree. they come from dogs who have already proven they can perform & produce. i have said in other posts,
titles are nice & prove the dog is trainable, but good production will be the future of the breed. dogs who cannot pass on
desireable traits do not insure the future. lots of good producers in this pedigree. i would expect some really nice pups
to come from it. :)
pjp

by Swifteagle on 28 March 2013 - 05:03
@ziegenfarm
Thanks a lot for the information, that was the kind of thing I was interested in learning. It blows my mind that some people like you know the history of dogs going way back. Thanks for the lesson you have given me on regards to some of the dogs on this pedigree. I hope the pups turn out as good as their predecessors .
Once again thank you so much for sharing your information with me.
My last dog, is a nice dog... In his pedigree there is only one dog with no title, one with Sch I and the rest are Sch III. He is now with the police, yet I dont think he was a super dog even though most of his predecessors where sch III. I do have to agree that it is a tool to help you see what is likely to come out, however it does not mean because there are a lot of titles the pups are going to turn super dogs. Same can be said the other way around.
There is always risk that a littler will not turn out that great, and if you dont think so, you are kidding your self, genetics some times plays funny tricks. I have heard it many many times of super females breeding to super males, producing crappy litters.
If any one else has further info, please let me know as I am wanting to learn more.
Thanks a lot for the information, that was the kind of thing I was interested in learning. It blows my mind that some people like you know the history of dogs going way back. Thanks for the lesson you have given me on regards to some of the dogs on this pedigree. I hope the pups turn out as good as their predecessors .
Once again thank you so much for sharing your information with me.
My last dog, is a nice dog... In his pedigree there is only one dog with no title, one with Sch I and the rest are Sch III. He is now with the police, yet I dont think he was a super dog even though most of his predecessors where sch III. I do have to agree that it is a tool to help you see what is likely to come out, however it does not mean because there are a lot of titles the pups are going to turn super dogs. Same can be said the other way around.
There is always risk that a littler will not turn out that great, and if you dont think so, you are kidding your self, genetics some times plays funny tricks. I have heard it many many times of super females breeding to super males, producing crappy litters.
If any one else has further info, please let me know as I am wanting to learn more.
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