dog attack on child in NY - Page 1

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/us/2013/03/15/dnt-child-mauled-by-dog.wabc

I don't know if I have pasted this correctly, but at least the guy came and got his dog...  poor child.

Darcy

What would ever incite a dog to do that??

FYI, fortunately--and miraculously--the child emerged from this with nothing more than bite *marks*. Not bite wounds, mind you--just marks.  I can only guess that her winter clothing protected her from more serious injury. It is a bizarre attack, for sure.

It evidently doesn't take much for some dogs to attack a little kid. Just last week a baby sitter's two Pitts killed a fourteen month old kid in the baby sitter's home.

The child had puncture wounds and was bleeding badly from her legs, more than marks IMO.
I'm sure her physical scars will heal, I just hope her emotional scars do.  Watching that was just horrid!
Stories like this make me furious.

Heart breaking Joanro.
Now I'll go on FB as see  crap like "all dogs go to Heaven", or "if your dog doesn't like someone, you shouldn't either."
 

"What would ever incite a dog to do that??"

Prey, lack of training and lack of restraint on the part of the owner...it isn't that shocking.

Red Sable, since I wasn't present, I could only go on what the television newscaster reported when I saw the video on a NYC Fox-affiliate newscast @ 5 PM EST today, which was that the child only had bite marks, not bite wounds. If that information is incorrect, I apologize. Perhaps they will amend their report at 10 PM.  I'd much rather the kid only have bite marks instead of wounds.

According to the video, the child was badly mauled and had to go to the hospital to be treated for puncture wounds.

Sh*t like this happens because people including some PDB users promote the breeding of dogs that maul and kill children and defend dogs that do this. When guys like me say this is wrong and GSDs and other dogs should be bred so they are hardwired not to hurt little kids, the usual PDB crowd pops up and calls us crazy and stupid.

Here's some samples from a recent PDB thread about a GSD that--with no provocation and a history of unprovoked growling at kids--went charging down the street after a little girl and thank God was called back by her owner before she got to the girl:

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by Bhaugh on 08 January 2013 - 15:52	Bhaugh Posts: 1252 Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 06:03 pm
Breeding a dog to be kid friendly is crazy Barb

by Siantha on 08 January 2013 - 17:25	Siantha Posts: 553 Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 01:28 am
So, what if you get a 13 year old kid who is breaking into your houses? is the dog suppos to sit nicely because it is a kid? . . . i dont want a dog who will only protect my home vs adults because some of you may not know but kids these days are more dangerous than adults. . . .

by Ruger1 on 08 January 2013 - 17:34	Ruger1 Posts: 3299 Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 03:45 am
Siantha,,I like your post,,I was thinking the same thing actaully ...

by YogieBear on 09 January 2013 - 00:36	YogieBear Posts: 486 Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 01:05 pm
Midgets dont get  a special pass........................Kids can be pests............. for those idiots that think that dogs should be conditioned to kids are idiots................your kids are a different story - but neighborhood kids............give me a freaking break.................most dogs are pets.........belong to pet people - they are not equipped to condition for every situation............I dont care if my dogs are conditioned for kids - I dont have them - dont want them - and I am not preparing for the to be social with them........

by Turk on 10 January 2013 - 23:34	Turk Posts: 349 Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2009 01:24 pm
Hey just a thought and I tend to think twisted at times.  We all know these dogs are smart, really smart and not all kids are angels.

 

by Keith Grossman on 08 January 2013 - 02:14	Keith Grossman Posts: 3070 Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:18 pm
"No 21-month-old GSD with a sound temperament would do that to a kid." No 21-month-old GSD would do what: protect her property?  Are you high?  That is exactly what they should do.

by Keith Grossman on 08 January 2013 - 03:17	Keith Grossman Posts: 3070 Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:18 pm
"Keith, 'protect her property' from a small kid? What are you smoking?" So, midgets get a free ride?  You people are confused.  Just because your dog is good with your grandbabies and whatnot doesn't mean you should expect him/her to react accordingly with a stranger encroaching on your property.  Dogs protect their territory...expect the worst or suffer the consequences.
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Keith, whose property was the dog "protecting" from that "midget" in the video?  Did that "midget" deserve to "suffer the consequences"?

Siantha and Ruger1, do you now feel safer because that "dangerous" four-year-old girl has been badly mauled, preventing her from burglarizing your home or otherwise "threatening" you?

Turk, do you figure that little girl was no angel and had it coming?

YogieBear, do you consider that little girl a pest who got what she deserved?

Baugh, is the dog in the video the type of dog you breed?

Nice work, folks. However indirectly, you help make attacks like the one in the video happen. And spare me the crap about proper "management" of dogs that want to maul and kill kids. Sooner or later, management fails. A gate gets left open, a prong collar flies apart, a dog slips his collar or bolts out of a car door as it opens.  That's when the dog's temperament and judgment mean everything.  Breed for dogs that want to kill kids like so many of you want to do, and you'll get kids who are dead or savagely mauled.

I'm an old guy, and I remember the days when people got it that a dog could be bred to have good judgment so he wouldn't bite little kids, yours or the neighbors, but he would bite the bad guys.

That's all I have to say about this because the "we love dogs that kill little kids" crowd will never get it. Not to mention I'd rather spend the time off the keyboard and with my GSD who won't hurt a little kid even if they yank his tail but will protect me from the bad guys.  He was bred to be that way.

I see both sides. Like Keith says, expect the worst or pay the consequences. No one should "count" on their dog not attacking a trespassing child. However, that's not to say that anyone should encourage aggression toward a child that young, either. Teenagers, to a dog, are not children! I do not consider there to be anything wrong with a dog who attacks a trespassing 13 yr old "child". Now, 3 is another story......I would never breed a dog, of any breed, who displayed any serious aggression toward an innocent toddler, mine or a stranger's. I say serious because there is a difference between alerting to a stranger on the premises and treating a small child like prey. I also do not see anything wrong with a dog warning a child that their behavior is inappropriate. It's up to the adult humans in charge to be sure that it never escalates and the dog's warnings are heeded and the child remains uninjured. No child should have to pay their entire lives for a mistake they made at 3 or 4. 

I never planned on having kids, never "socialized" my dogs with kids (because I never liked kids myself, LOL), my favorite dog never really liked them anyway, but when my son came along, I wasn't the least bit concerned about the dogs' reactions. I keep stable, well-trained, well-controlled dogs and a stable, well-trained, well-controlled dog does not decide to chase and kill children one day out of the blue. I do value a dog with good judgment very highly and agree we're losing them rapidly. So, as I said, there are 2 sides to this coin. 

Did we ever find out why that dog was loose to begin with? 
 

Dogs get one way trips to the big kennel in the sky at my house  for 2 reasons - If they attack ANYONE unprovoked (and that doesn't mean a dog that is protecting its property). Or, if one of my dogs bites me unprovoked, it's lights out for Fido.

The dog in the video looks as if it considered that child prey.