Resolve the WDA/USCA - Page 1

The GSDCA does not recognize the SV Breed Standard, it's performance titles, show ratings, or any other piece outlined by the WUSV Constitution as MANDATORY for membership.

As a result, they will not issue a trial scorebook as it directly conflicts with their stated goals for the breed with the AKC standard preeminent.

It the GSDCA had issued that scorebook, then the USCA would have immediately recognized it.

The solution is simple rather that contine another two decades with this unnecessary rancor.

1.  The WUSV recognizes the WDA who is in compliance with at least some of the requirements for membership.

OR

2.  The WDA and the USCA combine their shared values and goals into one membership organization absent the GSDCA.

A combined organization would have upward of 5000 members far surpassing that of the GSDCA; and, as the premminent (largest) German Shepherd Dog Breed Club in America have far greater influence on the direction of the breed.

it would further be FULLY compliant with the WUSV Constitution without all of this rancor.

Who would oppose such an arrangement?  Only a very small minority with self serving, vested interests who would wish to preserve them.

Can it happen?  I certainly hope so.  Both organization have great people and passion that would strengthen the breed immeasurably if not at odds.

Best to all,

Kevin Nance

Going with oprion 2 iwould take an act of Congress to get this done. Spend 2 years trying to figure out a name...5 to figure out who to run it....10 to let all the dust and bad blood settle...


Keith

Great thought Kevin and option #2 is surely the best for everyone concerned.  Let's see which Board members at the top of each organization can put their egos on the back burner and do what is right for the breed and the members of both organizations. 

What would it take to get this done?

Judy

Option 3

UScA forgets about the GSDCA, the WDA, the SV and the WUSV and becomes a RSV2000 affiliate

Thomas Barriano

They must create a way for all organizations to accept each others scorebooks and all titles and ratings obtained therein. It was been demonstrated on this forum more than once that particulars of what is and is not accepted is painfully unclear.

The politics and bickering are doing nothing but harming the sport, and thus the breed. Comprehending the rules and attempting to choose an organization is so frustrating and daunting for newcomers that many simply give up on the idea of following SV standards for breeding. Even breeders who formerly did only titled breedings are becoming disgusted with the process and doing without.

Our country is in economic crisis. Training and showing are fast becoming a luxury for many of us and it should be the primary goals of our organizations to keep a working standard accessible and easy to use and understand. Do the higher-ups in these clubs understand that the politics are distasteful and have turned many away from this sport and the standard that requires it? The loss of revenue alone should spur them, although the real loss comes from fewer breeders willing to wade through the muck of confusing rules and devisive policy to simply get a dog titled and surveyed. It just isn't putting the breed first.

Then again, what does a small timer like me know.

Kevin, you are the voice of reason with option two, but even if this is done either organization will still have no right to disenfranchise individuals because of their association with GSDCA. Otherwise either WDA or USCA should take option three and be completely out of WUSV. The AKC which is in the FCI supports the GSDCA...the WDA or USCA cannot use or PIMP the AKC registry and discriminate against the AKC's breed representative , which is the GSDCA. You can; not like GSDCA, or you can ignore GSDCA, but if you want to play in the international world and register you progeny and imports, then you have to accept their existence, because you support them through AKC every time you register your dog! WDA and USCA should be bosom buddies and strengthening each other until they get the numbers large enough, then the members of both groups register for GSDCA, take it over, and then exact changes from AKC from within. That is the prudent way, sure it takes time, but the pathway is clear, within boundaries of all regulating organizations, and beneficial to the breed. There are too many countries that operate JUST like the GSDCA in both the FCI and the WUSV for either organization to impose SV like law on the AKC/GSDCA. Get over what the GSDCA has created in America.....nobody in the world is going to join you in arms....so consolidate with like minded people, get the numbers and convert GSDCA into the organization that represents the world view. Otherwise, do like RSV2000, but that's a long haul and will require some short term loss of statue and money. People need to quit listening to hotheads, and logically think this out and make responsible decisions that ultimately get you where you want the breed in this country. WDA or USCA is not as big in the international world as they think they are, unless they have the country's registry organization behind them....plain and simple. Jmo.

Since when is the AKC an FCI member ?

I have an idea .. USCA follows the existing WUSV rules that they voted for and then knowingly violated for years and keeps their noses out of SV, WUSV, FCI, and AKC relationships with GSDCA and GSDCA-WDA.  Actually that is what is going to happen because the USCA has no choice in the matter.  If they disobey the SV and WUSV their fake breed registry, fake SV judges, and fake FCI relationship will disappear.  There isn't going to be any merger between anyone with USCA because the USCA has demonstrated time and time again they are dishonest and untrustworthy top to bottom.

AKC isn't a FCI member...just have letters of agreement.


Keith

@Jim Engel....my point is the AKC is the internationally accepted breed registry for the GS. They support the GSDCA........I think you understand the principle of my post.....if the reasoning is faulty everyone can just ignore it.
@Bubbaboo....your posts are just as counterproductive as the arrogance of others....we know mistakes and I'll will has taken place...but for most people they are seeking a practical path to showing and trialing their dog. The country is too large and the sport/international show events are too limited for the split to be advantageous to the average person that wants to compete....we need to move on from past ill willl that is not constructive, IMO.