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by wallacepayne on 04 March 2013 - 11:03

I have some questions for the SV?

One:  Does this turn of events mean that we have to let each other enter the others national events because we are WUSV members?

Two: Can we now enter the Bundessiegerprufung?

Three:  Can I now represent a small African country (Being that I'm Black and some where in Africa my original family came from) that's trying to be a member of the WUSV but don't have any dogs to send to the Championship because or any other country for that matter?

I don't think they would let  question Two and Three happen.  The SV need to stop their "Bullshit" and just go ahead and choose one organization or the other!   They created the problem and they can end the problem.  However, if they do not, I might be representing some small African country or Canada or Israel or Mexico or Trinidad or Germany in Philly this year.  Think of the "Possibilities" people!  We are WUSV members and that trumps all rules and laws!  To include the SV's rules!!

​Wallace Payne

by gsdstudent on 04 March 2013 - 12:03

We do not need to fret! I have knowledge of a "Sleeper cell'' deeply imbeded in the GSDCA  polical structure. The ''sleeper cell'' was instructed at the stroke of 9pm central Europe time zone to come active and take over the GSDCA. They will introduce for the first time gun fire during all adult conformation classes. There will be no more championships awarded. Only excellant ratings to the best of a class when they are IPO titled, hip and elbow certified, and breed surveyed when over the age of 4 years. It has finally come to pass! Only positive things for our great breed in the future! Thank you to all members of the ''sleeper cell'' for hiding your identity and waiting all these years to awaken and deliver us from all injustices!

by Jim Engel on 04 March 2013 - 13:03


I absolutely agree with Mr. Payne

by SitasMom on 04 March 2013 - 13:03

America is not the only country that has more than 1 WUSC club.
In these other countries, do the clubs let teams from the "other" club enter?
Anyone know the answer?

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 04 March 2013 - 14:03

They will introduce for the first time gun fire during all adult conformation classes.

Oh boy! That really ought to be fun!  (Pictures half the class running madly out of the ring, while s***ing themselves....)  Teeth Smile

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 04 March 2013 - 14:03

The SV can do what they want .. I think it is the USCA that must choose to obey the rules or take a hike.  The WUSV is being held in the USA by GSDCA and GSDCA-WDA.  This has been known publicly for two years or more .. probably 4 years or more internally.  The GSDCA-WDA is co-hosting with the GSDCA so the USCA would have to be idiots to believe the WDA was not a WUSV member.  Was the USCA asked to cohost or host again in 2013 .. NO!!  The message was clear but the USCA ignored it.  WDA members have competed in the WUSV continuously.  Henke's letter explains all in detail about who knew what when.  The USCA knew they were breaking the rules and the USCA leadership including Roetemeyer and his circle of "yes" men lied to both the USCA membership and the WUSV.  It was all a pack of lies from the get go.  If the USCA wants to clean up it's act, clean up the bylaws to meet WUSV standards for scorebooks and fellow WUSV members and get on with it.  The USCA needs a one man and one vote system to stop the board of directors and club officers from manipulating the club(s) regardless of what the membership wants.  The membership knew the scorebook ban was wrong from the get go but the majority apparently was unwilling or unable to get the "WDA anti-competition rule" rescinded.   Kind of looks like the membership and club leaders were more for the USCA than the "German Shepherd Dog".  The bullies in the USCA thought they could crush the GSDCA-WDA with a bunch of scorebook rules and bans but in the process they lost half the USCA membership in part due to the ban and in part due to the economy .. you can thank Roetemeyer and his circle for that.  All this BS about how the USCA is guarding the future of the GSD is just that .. BS.  Most of the dogs competing for the USCA over the last 10 years were born in Europe or were first generation offspring.  Looks like the Germans and the Czechs are guarding the breeds future and the Americans are just buying dogs.  The USCA breed registry is a joke .. just a SV registry rebadge.  The USCA is not a member of the FCI and never will be.  If you want to represent another country at the WUSV etc that is your business with the WUSV.  When you get to the competition the German and other European German Shepherd breeding countries will be there and that is where the real competition is anyway.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 04 March 2013 - 15:03

I forgot to mention .. Canada has some great GSD dogs competing already so you may or may not get on their team if the WUSV allows and I think you could represent any nation that the WUSV will allow regardless of your color or racial background.

by Dobermannman on 04 March 2013 - 15:03

It's not a question of the SV choosing GSDCA or UScA. They'll choose GSDCA based on membership numbers, the GSDCA relationship with the AKC and the fact that SV show dogs are more like American AKC Showline GSD's then working line. :-)
Bubbabooboo (who ever he/she is) analysisi is spot on.
The real question is UScA choosing the SV and gettintg good at licking boots and kissing ass OR growing a pair and cuting all  SV ties and going with Helmut Raisers RSV2000


Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) TT IPO II STP I
Winterfell Arya (11/27/09)BH TT K9NW I
Gwrgenau vom Himmelhoch (8/19/09) BH TT

by Bob McKown on 04 March 2013 - 15:03

The WDA is a parasitic orginization the feeds off of heallthy others, The SV is a cancer to the working German shepherd, There are cures for both Cut out the cancer and take some wormer.

by gsdstudent on 04 March 2013 - 17:03

is bubba spot on? No, not right just angry about nothing. Do we know if GSDCA has more members than UScA?  Do right and fear no one. Do wrong, and fix it. We are not an island in United States. Our program[s] need out side help to grow. Imagine no training sport. Does it look like GSDCA breeding program? We do not determine our direction in the WUSV without involvement. I can only imagine the letter to the higharchy of the GSDCA when they were told to follow the WUSV rules for the breed. They were given 1 year to do so, that was about 8 years ago. Now it is about time for all interested partys to get motivated to make inside our borders a strong GSD national club. Wake up the sleepers!





 


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