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by Abadonsdad on 02 March 2013 - 21:03

So  i have a question, does a dog have to be AKC registerd to breed to . hold on i know what your thinking , he wants to breed mutts . No i own an SV registerd ,pink papered  male.  because i bought him from germany ,and he is top of the line . AKC says they want 100 dollar extortion fee , to register my dog!!!! plus this and this and pictures, i can sell this dog and buy 5 american bred dogs , if needed but this dog is mine ,i would like to breed him one time , to my AKC registered female . but the wife says i should pay the extortion fee first ..

Markobytes

by Markobytes on 02 March 2013 - 21:03

As always, listen to the wife she is right. That way you can get papers for the pups. But please think about what you are doing, you really need to understand health and temperament . Please do not subject the puppies and potential owners to your ignorance. Have you hip and elbow x-rayed the dogs? How are their temperaments, do either show fear to strangers or loud noises? You also need to understand the blending of these two lines and the dogs behind the pedigree. Breeding should not be taken lightly.

by Abadonsdad on 02 March 2013 - 23:03

Wow , I ask for advice , do you not think i know the Breed , that alone my dogs!! you you don't know me or my dogs, but thank you ,let me tell you how much i do know, from the dog in  your picture,,.American bred, about 4-6 years old and i would not breed to this dog ,way too much white on her.how am i doing so far!

by SitasMom on 02 March 2013 - 23:03

Cool it.............

do your dogs have working titles, hip certifications, show titles?

what makes your dogs worthy of breeding?

do you have any of the puppies sold yet?

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 02 March 2013 - 23:03

Abadon- you can still register the pups with the AKC.
You will need to fill out the foreign dog sire paperwork anyway and probably have to jump through hoops and pay the usual arm and a leg.
May just as well AKC him.

by 1020ma on 02 March 2013 - 23:03

Well you could have at least answered his questions! Have you considered any anger management classes before? 

by Abadonsdad on 03 March 2013 - 00:03

Thank you Kitkat , i will register him. Sitasmom ,hip certs , of course , Male is of super quality , from Germany  ,he is protection trained In Germany . he is 84 pounds and excuse me for being a little bias , but gorgous! deep black and red , and good lookin too! My female was born at my house , she is out of my my that i had for 9 years , just wanting to carry on the lines , of my male.. in short I don't breed Mutts ! my dogs are left to people in my Will!. i do not take this lightly.if i did not think they were worth breeding  i would not. the Akc however thinks Labradoodles , and white shepherds should be able to be registered . as you would proubably know in  some , places too much white on a german shepherd is considerd to be a flaw. in my rescue experiance , i've seen one ear did not come up at 5 months here find this dog a home! it is shamefull but thats the way it is . i breed by the german standards , i only asked . When i registered my American dog 25 bucks -no problem , but if you import a dog well thats a different story.
i am sorry but i don't take to personal attacks very well. and calling me ingnorant NOt good . have a nice evening.

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 03 March 2013 - 00:03

Should pay the fee. It sucks, but to register the litter, yea you're going to have to. What is the dog's pedigree? I take it from your description he's a showline male?

by hexe on 03 March 2013 - 00:03

kitkat's answer that you could register the litter on the male's SV registration is WRONG.

The male HAS to be AKC-registered if you plan on registering the litter.  Special Registry Services rulebook, Chapter 1, page 3, Section D:

"D. AKC Bitch Bred to a Non-AKC Dog in the United States

A litter produced by an AKC registered Dam and a non-AKC registered Sire as the result of a breeding in the United States may only be registered when the Sire becomes registered with the AKC."

Your male sounds lovely. So do the all the other SV-registered, pink-papered males that are imported into the US annually, and a lot of them are even titled, show-rated and breed-surveyed! Does yours have those to his credit as well? Those questions weren't being asked by an ass, they were being asked by someone who was showing concern for dogs other than just the ones in his house. And yes, I do know you've got an interest or involvement in rescue, but that doesn't preclude you doing something foolish or self-centered. After all, you're the one whose first post here was:

 

 


puppies urgent
by Abadonsdad on 28 April 2009 - 00:04

Abadonsdad

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it is monday 6.38 colorado time i need to know how far apart puppies come don;t they just have them all at once?
please not to sound stupid just need to know
 

 And no, you didn't sound stupid, you just sounded like someone who should have done a good deal more research and asked more questions of experienced breeders BEFORE you bred your bitch, that's all.  You got really pissy with the person who chided you for not doing your homework then, too. Someone who's involved in rescue certainly ought to understand that breeding dogs just because 'you want to get one litter' from them is NOT an ethical explanation for doing a breeding.   And the AKC does NOT register Labradoodles, nor do they want to do so--they permit them to compete in certain working trials, along with any other mixed-breed, because (a) it's a revenue stream for it and the clubs, and (b) it promotes responsible dog ownership by encouraging people to train their dogs and DO stuff with them.  I'm not the AKC's biggest fan, but they do deserve credit when they do something right, and defense when falsely accused of doing something that's less than beneficial to dogs in general.

AYY 
YoYYyyyyyyy themy

 




macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 03 March 2013 - 01:03

I'm with Hexe there. And Marobytes dog is not "too white", he's sable. 





 


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