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by xcaliburfarms on 19 December 2006 - 14:12
Trying to choose a name for my dog and unsure as to the exact meaning of van, vom, von. My family traces back to the Van Renssalaer family and I would like to incorporate that into her and her puppies names. However, I notice the others von, vom are used throughout the pedigree. What is the difference? Thanks
by Charlie Ivory on 19 December 2006 - 14:12
Von = of, Vom if I recall correctly = from. Van you have me totaly baffeled,something used to transport the other two to a show mybe?.....not much help but that is about the best I can do for you.
Charlie
by Charlie Ivory on 19 December 2006 - 14:12
Von = of, Vom if I recall correctly = from. Van you have me totaly baffeled,something used to transport the other two to a show mybe?.....not much help but that is about the best I can do for you.
Charlie
by Charlie Ivory on 19 December 2006 - 14:12
sorry about the double post,don't know why that happens sometimes

by Bob-O on 19 December 2006 - 14:12
Excalibur, the German words "von" and "vom" mean the same thing; "of", "of the", and "from the". The word "van" is low German (Dutch) and has virtually the same meaning. The choice of the German words depends on whether the next noun is masculine, feminine, or neuter, or whether it is the proper name of a place or a given name. Confused? Easy to be that way. Add the German words "von dem", von der", and "zum" and one can be more confused.
In years past these words were part of the titled names worn by the German aristocracy and nobility. The Dutch equivilent seldom denotes nobility.
If you wanted to use one of these words, then correct usage would depend on the next noun; if you wanted to be perfect.
Bob-O

by Bob-O on 19 December 2006 - 14:12
Charlie, I like the commentary about "van". It made me laugh this morning, and I may save that as a joke.
Thanks for the humour-I appreciate it.
Bob-O
by Charlie Ivory on 19 December 2006 - 15:12
My pleasure Bob,glad to brighten your day a bit.
Happy Holidays to you and your family
Charlie

by Bob-O on 19 December 2006 - 15:12
And to yours as well, Charlie.
Thanks,
Bob-O
by Blitzen on 19 December 2006 - 15:12
Charlie, I think you forgot about Van Morrison.
by Kougar on 19 December 2006 - 19:12
You should come up wiht a name of your own for the dogs "last" or kennel name however...using a kennel name from the pedigree is very very incorrect - those names are identified with the breeder - and the registered dog should carry HIS breeders kennel name, not his grandfathers breeders kennel name....european breeders whose names are often mistakenly used this way can get very irate to see someone registering a dog 2 or 3 or 4 generations down from one of their dogs with their kennel name! It is ususally a well intentioned mistake, not a deception, but in any case, please do more research into the style and tradition of kennel names before using someone elses!
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