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by Ninja181 on 25 January 2013 - 23:01
Very informative and worth the read.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/24/states-crime-rates-show-scant-linkage-to-gun-laws/
by beetree on 25 January 2013 - 23:01

by Ninja181 on 25 January 2013 - 23:01
So if that is true, what's your point?
by beetree on 25 January 2013 - 23:01
(It is the results we are dealing with! The results are horrific leaving the status quo.... that is the point!)

by Ninja181 on 25 January 2013 - 23:01
But I appreciate your honesty. I really mean that.
But you did get bagged my dear. LOL

by GSD Admin on 25 January 2013 - 23:01
And for the last time we don't want your guns, we want assault weapons with high capacity magazines taken out. Plus better background checks. I can't for the life of me understand how that is taking away your guns.
Oh well back to my hole were I can be unAmerican and stupid all by myself. LMAO@the self proclaimed patriots and geniuses.

by Ninja181 on 25 January 2013 - 23:01
It is rubbish. Imagine the murder rates if those states didn't have strict gun control. Last I heard NYs murder rate was way down from previous years but hey who cares.
Now what you posted is absolutely correct, but there are some very interesting reasons why NYs murder rate went down. I wished I save the article about this. But here is what I remember from that article.
The reason NY murder rate went down is because the Police got ultra agressive and became pro-active instead of re-active. They went after the people they knew were the problem.
Now various groups have stepped in and claimed they were profiling, and checking people without probable cause etc. etc. etc.
The Police have now been ordered to totally back off. The article predicted NYC crime rate is going to soar in the next few years.
But this is the plan, get violence so bad you can go after everyones guns.
Let's see where there crime rate heads, and whether the article was correct.
Now go read a meter. LOL
by beetree on 25 January 2013 - 23:01
Analysts said the data underscore that there are no simple or easy broad answers to combating gun violence, which is a complex equation involving gun-ownership rates, how ready authorities are to prosecute gun crimes and how widely they ban ownership.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/24/states-crime-rates-show-scant-linkage-to-gun-laws/#ixzz2J2CdTvPh
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by Ninja181 on 26 January 2013 - 00:01
Go read my post after the one you said guilty. It should make you laugh.
That IMO was not a conservative or liberal article. Just a true honest study.
You also missed the following paragraph: Which I think is important.
“There do appear to be some gun controls which work, all of them relatively moderate, popular and inexpensive,” the researchers wrote. “Thus, there is support for a gun-control policy organized around gun-owner licensing or purchase permits (or some other form of gun-buyer screening); stricter local dealer licensing; bans on possession of guns by criminals and mentally ill people; stronger controls over illegal carrying; and possibly discretionary add-on penalties for committing felonies with a gun.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/24/states-crime-rates-show-scant-linkage-to-gun-laws/#ixzz2J2FgCa8W
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

by Two Moons on 26 January 2013 - 00:01
the death penalty doesn't stop murders, it stops the murderer.
Problem is no one want's to throw the switch in a timely manner.
They'd rather provide for them their own little world within a world in prisons that we all pay for.
Most of them love the world we've made for them, nice to be rewarded for a life of crime.
The economy and society set the crime rate, the threat of a gun does enter the mind of a criminal, it's figured in with all your statistics.
What's wrong with your gun laws?
You would open a floodgate just as you already did with your right to privacy and due process.
You want to restrict everyone's rights not just your own.
You want to blame a device for the short comings of our laws and society at the risk of everyone's freedom.
Moons.
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