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by trixx on 23 January 2013 - 21:01

i would like to know what all think of these hips, this is not my dog but was one of my puppies , it is a female shep 2 years old in xray 2 months after heat cycle ,big 70 pound female very large bone, i know they are not the best xrays , but dont know if i can get her to retake , will be sent to OFA but really dont think they are passable, thinking moderate HD. any input is welcome.

by sentinelharts on 23 January 2013 - 21:01

I think anyone's first reaction is that the right hip is very bad BUT- The positioning is also terrible. The patellas are not in the xray so you can not really see how out of position it is. The right leg is quite far out and my guess is that it is rotated as well. The positioning should look very similar to the left. Read Ed Frawley's write up on hip positionig http://leerburg.com/hipart.htm and then this video is also helpful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg-uyaka2Q0&list=PLJl44wAKymzsl-LLqdNlYyz0s1LeCRgEW&index=1

I would definately have the dog xrayed properly before I made any decisions.

by sentinelharts on 23 January 2013 - 21:01

Do not send these to OFA!!!

by trixx on 23 January 2013 - 23:01

cause i dont own this dog , i cant stop the lady from sending them in, she was told that the hips need to OFA for replacement, if they dont pass, i know i am with you i would want better xrays, its bad enough she felt her vet was good enough to say they are bad and she did not need to send them into OFA , but for replacement she will need to . i wont replace without OFA findings. yes i know they are not good xrays. she was going to fix this dog before OFA come back, well i hope the OFA tell her to retake as they are bad.

by Nans gsd on 24 January 2013 - 01:01

I don't think another x-ray will make that much difference in the grading. you basically have hardly any hip socket on the right side, left looks OK. Sorry for this, Nan

by Prager on 24 January 2013 - 02:01

OFA moderate to OFA severe. Positioning does not matter here much. It could improve one degree but the dog would still end up dysplastic. I would send them another dog. Keep the dog slim and it will be OK. If you spay her it will gain weight. This is not a death warrant. I have seen dogs with worse hips have good life.
Prager Hans

by Hutchins on 24 January 2013 - 03:01

I would not send these to OFA. I agree with Prager and Nans gsd. Positioning will not change the socket. If I were the breeder on this dog, I would not make this owner send in to OFA. why make them spend more money and it obviously won't be any different. You did say they were getting her spayed anyway. Getting her spayed would be enough for me to give a replacement. I put myself in the place of the owner now. JMO

by hexe on 24 January 2013 - 03:01

" If you spay her it will gain weight. "

Only if her owner doesn't appropriately manage the dog's feed ration and exercise level. There's no law, of nature or otherwise, that says spayed female and castrated male dogs MUST become overweight. It's up to the owners.

by macrowe1 on 24 January 2013 - 03:01

No, I spayed my female in August, and she has not gained a pound. You limit their food intake in consideration to their metabolic changes.Keep her lean because of her hips. And yes, OFA moderate to severe. I'd go more towards the severe even though the one looks OK, the other looks awful.

by Bhaugh on 24 January 2013 - 04:01

I disagree about not sending in the films. Yes the dog will fail but this is what creates problems when someone wants to see what dogs of a line actually had hd. If only good hips are sent, then the truth of hips scores will always be distorted.

Barb

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