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by AUBS47 on 12 December 2012 - 02:12
by Nans gsd on 12 December 2012 - 02:12
by Ibrahim on 13 December 2012 - 06:12
http://www.freewebs.com/southernbulldoggebreedersassn/puppytesting.htm
Puppy Temperament testing
This series of tests is designed to test a seven to nine week old puppy to see his/her possible potential for Personal Protection work. Notice I said possible potential because the end result of the dog depends nearly as much on how it is raised/trained as it does on genetics. Realize though that without the proper genetics you cannot develop an excellent dog in PP work regardless of the training.
The following tests were taken from many resources from people’s material that have way more experience with dogs than I do.
These tests must be done by someone the pup is unfamiliar with. The optimal thing to do would be to video tape the process and watch the video to better evaluate the puppy. While watching the video mark the proper responses and make any notes as needed.
First have the breeder separate the males and females if you are desiring a particular sex ( or by color or whatever criteria you choose) before you walk up to the pen.
It is important to remove pups from the group after each test that have totally unacceptable behaviors.
When using the test below simply use the lines in front of each response to check off the response you get.
Test 1) Stranger walks up to pen
______Puppy walks up to fence and barks deeply (initially then relaxes) with tail wagging (BEST)
_______Puppy walks up to fence yipping happily wanting attention(SECOND)
_______Puppy stands his ground and barks or growls (THIRD) PLEASE NOTE THIS DOG WILL REQUIRE SPECIALIZED TRAINING IN ORDER TO INSURE HE DOES NOT TURN INTO A FEAR BITER.
_______Puppy ignores stranger(good pet for people with little time, but not PP work)
_______Puppy shies away from stranger and goes to other side of pen (Not acceptable)
Other response___________________________________________________________________
Test 2) Throw a plastic 2 liter bottle with a few rocks in it to make noise, into the pen without hitting a puppy.
_______Puppy investigates bottle immediately(Best, but will require a strong trainer and good training)
_______Puppy startles then investigates (Second)
_______Puppy stands his ground(Third)
_______Puppy runs from bottle( Not acceptable)
Other response___________________________________________________________________
Test 3) Slam two small pieces of 2 x 4 together to replicate the sound of gunfire, although milder.
_______Puppy still comes to fence wanting to play (Best)
_______Puppy stands his ground (Good)
_______Puppy runs (Not good)
Other response___________________________________ (any but running is good)
Test 4) Take puppy out of pen and play with rag/towel walk and shake rag in front of puppy to see if you can stimulate the dogs prey drive.
______Puppy chases and bites at rag(Best)
______Puppy shows no interest in rag( puppy lacking prey drive may be a good pet but poor PP prospect
______Puppy runs from you(not acceptable)
Other responses__________________________________________________________________
Test 5) Pick up the puppy and cradle in your arms as you would a baby, looking into the puppy’s eyes.
_______Puppy looks into your eyes and completely relaxes, it is acceptable if puppy soon tires of this and rolls toward you then tries to get loose.(Best)
_______Puppy relaxes but either won’t look at you or tries to roll away when he gets tired of being held.(Maybe Acceptable, may not dependeing on the level of Obedience you want)
______Puppy fights, screams, or cries. (Unacceptable)
Other notes______________________________________________________________-_______
Stop for a few seconds to get the pup’s trust pet, rub, etc...
Test 6)Chase and retrieve with a piece of crumbled paper. Get the pup’s attention on the ball roll it away in front of the dog.
_______Puppy chases then brings ball back to you. (Best)
________Puppy chases ball catches it and plays with it (Second)
_________Puppy ignores ball (try again maybe he didn’t see it, if still uninterested Worst)
Other notes_______________________________________________________________________
Test 7) Touch sensitivity. While playing with pup pinch between it’s toes just hard enough to elicit a pain response. Then let pup go.
______Puppy bites at hand and when released stays near you wanting attention (Best)
______Puppy runs and returns wanting attention(Second)
______Puppy runs and returns only after being called(Third)
_______Puppy cries and runs away will not return(Unacceptable)
Other notes_______________________________________________________________________
Also go up to the pen where the Sire and Dam are, hopefully they are both on the premises. If the parent will not approach the fence this is a sign of weak nerves and is possibly hereditary. A dog that comes to the fence and barks a lot may be territorial or may be trying to cover up for weak nerves or both. The only unacceptable response is if the dog refuses to come near you the stranger.
by Ibrahim on 13 December 2012 - 06:12
How to Pick a PP Prospect.
A case study of a performance bred Red Star Presa litter -Red Star Vega (Duna x Cona) x Canario
There are several vital components/ variables that must be present in a litter you will be looking at for PP prospects. If they all are not present, the litter is not worth the investment you are preparing to make. Criteria for the successful end-result of a search for a personal protection prospect must be fulfilled when it comes to three most vital components: The Breeding, The Breeder and The Trainer.
Do NOT go out looking for a PP prospect in litters where breeders cannot present you with proof that parents have all of the abilities you want your future dog to display. To produce PP dogs sire and dam must be tested in protection and show definite ability. It only makes sense: if you want a dog to have courage to protect you, with a balance of drives, strength of nerve and confidence that will allow him to be a pleasant and trustworthy companion with a on and off switch, these qualities MUST be evident throughout tests that breeders MUST conduct to determine breeding suitability of both parents. In the absence of testing there is no telling of what goes into the dog genetically, and a professional breeder will not leave these important qualities unchecked.
I liked what Jerry Bradshaw had to say during his latest PSA seminar: Genetics is 80 per cent of the dog. The day someones mule wins the Triple Crown at the Kentucky Derby I will stop believing in genetics.
Temperament (nerves, drives, thresholds) is 100% genetics, and it is genetics that will set the boundaries to your dogs future working ability and behavior. The more consistency in proven working ability there exist within each generation in dogs pedigree, the higher is the validity of expectations that the pup showing good promise will turn out to ones satisfaction.
Especially in Molosser breeds, with problems like sharpness and lack of confidence so widely spread, it is a waste of time and money.
Looking at the dogs in these puppys lines will give us an idea of what the parents reproduce like, how they themselves fare against their offspring and stiff competition.
Most articles on the topic aren't definitive enough, because they are not given an illustration. As performance breeders and professional trainers specializing in personal protection we realize that most people who would turn to this article for help and instruction won't have the same understanding of the meaning - that is why we put this article together.
Why do we call this litter a performance litter, because of dogs in the lines are all PROVEN personal protection dogs. Proven outside their territory on strange decoys, while competing in reputable events under well-respected judges.
Litters Dam Vega is a product of Cona x Duna breeding from two years ago. The litter of 9 yielded 8 dogs that came back for pp, ob, and agility at Red Star. 7 of them, including Vega, were titled, received awards and titles by the time they were 20 month old surpassing their parents in performance when competing against them.
Patton PPDA ID 1st place, IDT3, GDT
Vega PPDA ID 2nd fastest time, K9 ProSport, IDT3, GDT
Ookla K-9 ProSports, IDT 3, GDT
Thor K-9 ProSports, IDT 3, GDT
BrutusPPDA ID, IronDog, GDT, IDT 3, ranked Irondog, K9 ProSport
Toraand Sabio Red Star OB, PP, and Agility Bootcamp
Phenomenal consistency, and not surprising considering that Cona is DSO winner, placed in the top five at Chicago Fall Brawl, PPDA IronDog two-time Winner, he is IAPC BST II, OFA Good, ranked WABA IronDog inlcuding winning an OB and PP tourney 1st Place at WABA Nationals, plus IWPA contender.
Through her Dam, Duna (IAPC BST I, OFA "Good", GDT, IDT3, Hardest Hitting 1st, DSO contender), Vega represents the line of the legendary Nala: an outstanding female that both Alex and Stefan Baumgartner tested in CI and were extremely impressed with. Nala was calm, supremely confident and hard on a man, even-tempered and without undesirable levels of sharpness, high levels of suspicion, yet trustworthy with kids, neutral and friendly strangers, with the on and off switch we all admire in our dogs. Through Duna and her brother, Red Star Batur, Nala is probably the most influential Presa in the modern performance Presa strain. All of us in working Presa the community know about Presas like Duna and Batur, and their hard-to-match contribution to performance Presa world in a form of their phenomenal offspring - especially in cases of Oakleafs Red Star Tianna(Batur x Cheetah) a Presa with the most working titles and achievements in the world today (PSA1, IAPC BST II, WABA OB1, IWPA WD1, ARBA Master Supreme Grand CH, IABCA Multi CH, IDT3, GDT, TDI, ATTS, CGC and TAN, Confirmed "Very Good" and OFA Excellent); the much admired in serious working circles Red Star Millennium Primo, ranked WABA IronDog, PSA I and OFA Excellent (Duna x Turco), Red Star Ivy ,Lacota the entire Cona/Duna litter already mentioned above, as well as the most recent Duna x Canario pups, Zeeta and Jetta.
While this is Vegas first litter, she has produced it with a proven stud; Canario, in an IAPC endorsed breeding. His is only his fourth litter, but the results we have seen are outstanding so far. Red Star Zeetaand Jetta(out of Duna) began to display phenomenal drives, confidence and competition potential since 6 months old. And RS Jetta is right now in training for the Spring PSA trial
Canarios litter with RS-bred Cheetah (Turco x Bengal) produced several extremely dominant, driven males, one of which today is a seminar demo dog for the renowned trainer John Brown of New York, receiving most enthusiastic praise to his protection abilities.
Together with RS Linda, an extremely serious, drivey female, Canario has produced Red Star Corrida.
To summarize, based on dogs in these pups lines: sire and dam, grand and grand-granddam and grandshire , littermates AND after extensive preliminary testing (the pups are 7 weeks old tomorrow, and ready to go to their new homes in a weeks time) we honestly expect good results from this litter.
From day one of testing all of them did not disappoint us! Observe the consistency and behavioral uniformity we were VERY pleased with them. In our opinion and according to all the tests we have conducted so far, this is a very high quality performance bred litter.
If one breed's enough, anyone can get lucky and produce a capable dog once in a great while. Many amateurs would consider it a great accomplishment. In our opinion, such results can not justify a "working" prefix to a breeding program. Majority of working dogs, their high quality WITHIN each litter, is what makes a program worthy of a title "working dog breeding". These puppies are no coincidence - based on the quality of dogs that went into their genetic makeup (see above) they are a result of a professional approach to breeding working dogs. The following are the clips of each of the 12 pups from the Vega x Canario litter, being tested on a rag in three modes of environmental stress outside of their familiar territory- with a rattle stick around and over the head, bottle filled with coins abover and over the head, and on a plastic tarp with a large empty plastic jug.
At this age, any performance dog breeder of Mals, GSD's, AB's, Dobes etc. would be very proud of such results, individually and overall.
See for yourselves:
Male 1
Male 2
Male 3
Male 4
Male 5
Male 6
Male 7
Male 8
Male 9
Male 10
Female 1
Female 2
Any expert would confirm that puppies that can go through such a test with same results at this age would be considered good prospects for anyone with working/training/competition expectations.
Expect nothing less from a pup with a true PP potential that wont be a waste of time, money and energy. The Buyers biggest job at this point is to communicate to The Breeder their needs properly, so their future prospect is expertly chosen.
The Breeder is to be trusted to pick the best PP candidate to fit your situation ONLY IF The Breeder is QUALIFIED. That means the breeder is an expert when it comes to PP or works closely with an expert. You wouldnt turn to an AKC show Husky breeder or a newspaper ad for a racing sled team candidate, and it shouldnt be any different when it comes to a dog you will trust with yours and your familys safety. In a nutshell, one who is breeding working dogs cannot do it if he doesnt have any idea what a working dog is.
To determine each puppys suitability as a PP candidate, testing should specifically include the following components:
1. High tolerance to Environmental stress of all kinds is CRITICAL in a PP dog early testing can be conducted by observing each puppys initial reaction to various stimuli and its recovery time. Puppies must be exposed to various objects outside their territory on several different surfaces, pup has to confidently overcome strange noises (rattling stick, plastic can filled with rocks), they must curiously investigate, never run away or show fear. Why ability to function under stress is of such critical importance? If Presas are to protect, they must do so not just by growling or biting a sleeve, which isnt functional but by actively engaging an aggressor under pressure, as the very minimum. But if the dog cannot protect outside of its territory (home and yard) under distractions of various difficulty, what good is it, then? Trials, competitions and other forms of field testing prove that, especially in Molossers, environmental stress is the biggest obstacle in the way of successful pp dog training and performance. Testing tolerance is essential.
Secondly,
2. A worthy testing scheme will evaluate the amount of drive each puppy has. Main drive to judge at this early age is prey drive, For this we use a tug toy a burlap sack, play with each pup individually to see how interested they are in chasing and catching, how willing to hold on, especially hold under environmental stress and distractions (rattle sticks, shaking cans with rocks, squishing plastic cups). After that, we observe each puppys willingness to fight over the captured prey while on the bite (shaking and growling, holding on), behaviors that reveal the beginnings of fighting drive in Presas.
Of no less importance during puppy tests of future PP candidates is each puppys
3. Sociability, desire to please, desire to comply. We observe each pups behavior with us. How quickly puppies learn to know and recognize us, how willing are they to come over and be petted, how attentive and responsive to attention they are (looking in the face, sitting down and looking up, climbing into the lap, etc.)A pup that is independent and cares little or not at all for human touch, wont pay much attention to its owners in the future, and might very well be unwilling to comply in training, which will very much impair his use as a PP dog. High dominance and independence in a pup make for a big disadvantage to the future owner they usually spell non-compliance and non-cooperation. So many of the so-called dogmen praise a puppy who has a lot of fight in him, who is cocky and very or even overly dominant, i.e. a dog that doesnt accept anybody as authority. These people have no idea about the art of training and raising highly capable protection dogs. Make sure that a person who makes a selection of your puppy is competent when it comes to functionality in many more ways then just words: if opinion can not be backed up with SOLID PROOF. Accept no substitutes.
To see protection abilities of the many representatives of the same lines, please visit "The Video" and "Performance Presas" pages for video and pictures..
Alex Vyatkin (English editor Viola Volkova)
October 2003 .
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