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by guddu on 02 December 2012 - 20:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b3-6mqlV7k
This is just a training video...so what do the experts see. Just trying to learn. Bitch is my dog's dam.

by hunger4justice on 05 December 2012 - 20:12
Since no one else posted, I will though far from expert myself. I see a very confident eager, high drive bitch with great grip and a lot of fight (though she was not really defensed in the video). She shows enthusiasm and confidence in her work. I think she also has great structure and pigment and her grips were mostly very excellent. I think she is a really nice female, really nice. I love her lineage. I love my Grimm progeny as well and I am sure your puppy must be fantastic.
by Gustav on 05 December 2012 - 21:12
I see a very nice structured female, with good type. Not as confident as I would like to see, but by no means soft. Not a high drive dog, but needs more commitment and better grips. Don't know the age of the female but I would be selective who I bred her to. Still a nice female overall.

by hunger4justice on 05 December 2012 - 22:12
Gustav, just for my own education (I am being really sincere...I know forum is full of sarcasim and rudeness) do you say slight lack of confidence (that can be helped or made worse depending on training) because the dog would at times look back at the handler? I did see one grip that was not so full, but why do you say more committment? (I am asking so I can know what to look for in watching a dog perform) I did notice the dog looking to the owner a few times, but also saw her ears were very erect and she did not seem defensed. Also what would you look for to tell you the dog is high drive v what you saw....Just trying to learn here.

by EduCanine on 05 December 2012 - 23:12
To me she looks very anticipatory of the routine, I don't see lack of confidence though. I'd like to see what she looks like outside of her own training field and some obedience too.

by RLHAR on 05 December 2012 - 23:12
I would really have liked to hear her bark tone rather than the music, I think it would have told a lot about her.
I see a dog who is not very intense about the work. She is easily distracted, almost to the point of looking like avoidance, though she is being worked entirely in prey and given nothing but confidence building wins.
Personally I don't see much power in her grips, though she is calm in the them which is nice but she slides on the drive even though she is being supported by the line behind her.
I agree with Gustav that she is nicely built, but I would be very particular about what stud she goes too.
I see a dog who is not very intense about the work. She is easily distracted, almost to the point of looking like avoidance, though she is being worked entirely in prey and given nothing but confidence building wins.
Personally I don't see much power in her grips, though she is calm in the them which is nice but she slides on the drive even though she is being supported by the line behind her.
I agree with Gustav that she is nicely built, but I would be very particular about what stud she goes too.

by Slamdunc on 06 December 2012 - 02:12
Gustav, spot on!
I see a defensive dog that is a bit insecure and it shows. Nice drive, a little sharp and defensive. Grips are ok, drive overcomes the insecurity and the dog goes forward. Strikes are nice but the dog is a little hectic up close to the helper and consistently drives behind the decoy; but the grips are calm as Rlhar mentions just not full. It is hard to really judge this dog based on this one video. Is the handler the owner, has he recently acquired the dog or raised the dog? I am also not crazy about the training and that long line technique. It almost looked like the dog didn't engage a couple of times when the decoy did a run by. I couldn't tell if the dog didn't bite or the handler pulled back on the leash stopping the dog short. I'd probably have to watch the video a few more times to really tell.
Just my 2 cents
I see a defensive dog that is a bit insecure and it shows. Nice drive, a little sharp and defensive. Grips are ok, drive overcomes the insecurity and the dog goes forward. Strikes are nice but the dog is a little hectic up close to the helper and consistently drives behind the decoy; but the grips are calm as Rlhar mentions just not full. It is hard to really judge this dog based on this one video. Is the handler the owner, has he recently acquired the dog or raised the dog? I am also not crazy about the training and that long line technique. It almost looked like the dog didn't engage a couple of times when the decoy did a run by. I couldn't tell if the dog didn't bite or the handler pulled back on the leash stopping the dog short. I'd probably have to watch the video a few more times to really tell.
Just my 2 cents
by Gustav on 06 December 2012 - 03:12
@hunger4justice....I see the exact same things that Rhlar and Slamdunc see....they give good description,IMO .
by workingdogz on 06 December 2012 - 11:12
Gustav, Slam and RLHAR have summed it up pretty well.
If you watch her on the greater majority of her grips, tension
is kept pretty snug on the long line, usually that is done to
prevent the dog from 'slipping' off the grip. Or in other words,
to 'set the grip'. You can see when the line is slack or she is
off lead, grips will slip to less than full, and they don't look
very hard . At the 43 second mark she appears to not bite.
She is a very pretty bitch, nice substance and bone. Lots of
high pitched prey barking can be heard just over the music.
How old was she in the video? She looks like she
could gain more confidence with more work, but there wasn't
really any true pressure put on her in the video's. I would
hazzard a guess that what you see in the video is pretty
much what she brings genetically, sort of a 'club dog'.
I've seen much worse
, but that said, I'd like to see a little
better, would prefer more strength and power coming from her.
If you watch her on the greater majority of her grips, tension
is kept pretty snug on the long line, usually that is done to
prevent the dog from 'slipping' off the grip. Or in other words,
to 'set the grip'. You can see when the line is slack or she is
off lead, grips will slip to less than full, and they don't look
very hard . At the 43 second mark she appears to not bite.
She is a very pretty bitch, nice substance and bone. Lots of
high pitched prey barking can be heard just over the music.
How old was she in the video? She looks like she
could gain more confidence with more work, but there wasn't
really any true pressure put on her in the video's. I would
hazzard a guess that what you see in the video is pretty
much what she brings genetically, sort of a 'club dog'.
I've seen much worse

better, would prefer more strength and power coming from her.

by Slamdunc on 06 December 2012 - 13:12
Workingdogz,
Exactly.
Exactly.
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