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by gekswag03 on 17 November 2012 - 05:11
I am looking for Top Sport pup and these litters are what I am thinking of getting one from. Can I get your views on which litter would be best and why, in your opinion????
1. Argo x Bara pup, this is an exciting litter for me
Line-breeding for the progency of Argo z Libocké zahrady and VD Bára z Ronbaru
or
Orry (IT) x Xanta Vitaxis
Line-breeding for the progency of SG Orry (IT) and SG Xanta Vitaxis
or
Norbo Ben Ju(from frozen) x her Dam Bomba
pedigree for Norbo
VELMI DOBRY NORBO BEN-JU
pedigree for Bomba
Line-breeding for the progency of SG Isaac vom Bracheler See and Bega spod Kostola
or
Varen Van Den Heuvel (Son of Orry) x Sami Gymor
Pedigree for Sami
Sami Gymor
Pedigree for Varen
Line-breeding for the progency of SG Orry (IT) and Ulrike Egidius
1. Argo x Bara pup, this is an exciting litter for me
Line-breeding for the progency of Argo z Libocké zahrady and VD Bára z Ronbaru
or
Orry (IT) x Xanta Vitaxis
Line-breeding for the progency of SG Orry (IT) and SG Xanta Vitaxis
or
Norbo Ben Ju(from frozen) x her Dam Bomba
pedigree for Norbo
VELMI DOBRY NORBO BEN-JU
pedigree for Bomba
Line-breeding for the progency of SG Isaac vom Bracheler See and Bega spod Kostola
or
Varen Van Den Heuvel (Son of Orry) x Sami Gymor
Pedigree for Sami
Sami Gymor
Pedigree for Varen
Line-breeding for the progency of SG Orry (IT) and Ulrike Egidius

by guddu on 17 November 2012 - 12:11
To make it easier for readers, pl. provide direct links to mating checks. You may have better luck that way.

by gekswag03 on 17 November 2012 - 13:11
Geez........i didn't even notice the links didn't work. Thank you....Lets try again
1. Argo x Bara pup, this is an exciting litter for me
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=536189&mother=1357943
or
Orry (IT) x Xanta Vitaxis
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=450382&mother=594383
or
Norbo Ben Ju(from frozen) x her Dam Bomba
pedigree for Norbo
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=409047
pedigree for Bomba
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=628212&mother=638900
or
Varen Van Den Heuvel (Son of Orry) x Sami Gymor
Pedigree for Sami
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=744244
Pedigree for Varen
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=450382&mother=501468
1. Argo x Bara pup, this is an exciting litter for me
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=536189&mother=1357943
or
Orry (IT) x Xanta Vitaxis
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=450382&mother=594383
or
Norbo Ben Ju(from frozen) x her Dam Bomba
pedigree for Norbo
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=409047
pedigree for Bomba
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=628212&mother=638900
or
Varen Van Den Heuvel (Son of Orry) x Sami Gymor
Pedigree for Sami
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=744244
Pedigree for Varen
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=450382&mother=501468

by aaykay on 17 November 2012 - 14:11
All of these have got pluses and minuses, IMO.....and I personally would have liked it better if these were repeat litters, with the prior progeny available to be studied. Are any of these repeats ?
Among the choices presented, assuming none of these are repeats, I personally would opt for the first one (Argo x Bara) or the last one (Varen x Sami) and skip the other two.
Also, why don't you get in touch with Jiri from Jinopo.cz or Hans/Prager from AlpineK9, since there is nobody more knowledgeable than the Jinopo folks when it comes to Czech dogs (they would probably immediately know why a specific combo or line-breeding could potentially cause problems and what kind of problems could come up etc). Dogs like Norbo, Cak, Orry etc came from or via Jinopo, in any case. Jinopo also sell dogs, ranging all the way from PP to Top sport and might be a good idea to pick that as an option too, when sourcing dogs with dominant Czech breeding.
There are other folks too on this forum who are very knowledgeable about Czech dogs and about any potential trouble spots in a specific combo etc.
Among the choices presented, assuming none of these are repeats, I personally would opt for the first one (Argo x Bara) or the last one (Varen x Sami) and skip the other two.
Also, why don't you get in touch with Jiri from Jinopo.cz or Hans/Prager from AlpineK9, since there is nobody more knowledgeable than the Jinopo folks when it comes to Czech dogs (they would probably immediately know why a specific combo or line-breeding could potentially cause problems and what kind of problems could come up etc). Dogs like Norbo, Cak, Orry etc came from or via Jinopo, in any case. Jinopo also sell dogs, ranging all the way from PP to Top sport and might be a good idea to pick that as an option too, when sourcing dogs with dominant Czech breeding.
There are other folks too on this forum who are very knowledgeable about Czech dogs and about any potential trouble spots in a specific combo etc.

by GSDPACK on 17 November 2012 - 16:11
If you are serious about competing, I would forget the puppies and purchase a youngster.
But if you insist on a puppy, the first breeding could me interesting as I know the dam. She has produced some nice puppies in Czech.
Good luck.
But if you insist on a puppy, the first breeding could me interesting as I know the dam. She has produced some nice puppies in Czech.
Good luck.
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