BH routine question - Page 1

Ok so I just did a BH but the judge commented on one thing that I did not know about

In the group, do you turn first left or right. I am perplexed as I have never had a judge tell me I did it wrong and to save my life I can't find it in the rule book. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place?

Thank you.

What exactly did they critique you for not doing?

2012 IPO rule changes put in a second definitive "left" turn into the obedience routine.    I have read where it was suggested that this second left be shown as a turn into the group.

So it would be:  Left turn towards the group, left turn into the group, then the figure 8 pattern in the group.

Was it perhaps the second left into the group that the judge was looking for?

Nope the 8 pattern in the actual group. He said I did it wrong, I had no clue that there is a rule pattern. On leash, I turned left first as it really doesn't matter since my female is superglued to my hip, I did the other off leash the other way and I guess that one was correct. I am very confused but maybe I misunderstood. I never paid attention as if I turn lef or right in the group, I just did one of each on and off leash..


Oh and BTW the "second" left was taken out. I swear, they need to either keep up or just leavi it alone. LOL

Huh.  I'm like you, all the feedback I've ever gotten is show one of each and you're good.

And great about the second left.  We've been training for it for an upcoming trial.   I wish they would make up their minds.

RLHAR.. no shit.. lol


If I were you I would ask the judge before the trial.. just in case about the "second" into the group turn because who knows anymore. Maybe I was told wrong.

I will GSDPack.   My default is always, 'when in doubt, ask the judge.'

Politely, of course! 

GSDPACK,
This is interesting that you start this topic. As our club was discussing it at training TODAY...lol. Some people would go into the group and turn left first, others would go in and go right first. As far as I know there is no set rule which way you turn first. One of club members who has competed at the Regionals said that the judges LIKE it if you go to the right first (so the dog would be away from the person in the group) then go to the left second. I personally do it this way (going right first) as I feel it looks better.

Oh and by the way, they took out the second left??? I sure wish they would make up their minds.. its the little things that drive me crazy!!

what drives me crazy is that I cant find the USCA version of the new rules (besides that vague powerpoint). Trial coming up in December..tzzz Also, the FCI rule .pdf does not contain anything about the AD (or did I just over-read it?)

I ended up going to the FCI site and printing and binding 3 copies of the current rules. We just did a trial 2 weeks ago and had 4 members of our club doing the BH for the first time so we were checking the rules back and forth, up and down. First let me say that the FCI full version is pretty bad. No where in it does it even mention doing the heeling pattern again off-leash, we know you do, of course, just found it funny that it is NEVER mentioned. It doesn't give any specs on the group like you are mentioning, only that there must be a turn each way and a halt as I recall. 

Here's the copy from the FCI site:

Group

Heeling through a group of moving people is to be shown both on- and off leash. The handler must go at least one time to the left and right (e.g. figure 8) around the people. Each time the handler goes through the group, he has to halt at least once near a person. It is up to the judge to request a repeat. On instruction of the judge, the handler and his dog leave the group and assume a basic position. Praising the dog is only permitted after leaving the group and in the final basic position. 

Here's the link to the FCI site, as you can see in the table of contents the BH is not addressed at all. There are headings for all the other tests but not one for the BH, unless you count the section termed Temperament Test.
http://www.fci.be/circulaires/55-2011-annex-en.pdf

 

Elkoor


 The AD is a WUSV title and is not in the FCI rules.



BoCRon

  The BH is called "Companion trial with temperament test and documentation check
for the dog handler Page 21-28"