Oelmans Dorf K-9's - Page 1

I purchased a puppy from Terry at Oelmans Dorf K-9's and I can say that I couldn't be any happier.  I have 7 different shepherds in my breeding program now (I used to have to have 10) and I am most impressed with the dog I recieved from Terry, mind you I have a German Import from Grafental kennels.  I was looking for a dog for sport protection and Terry delieverd that to a tee.  Oelmansdorf's Mikado Vom Salis "Rekon" has amazing drive, an undying want to learn, no fear and will do anything I ask of him.  He has very nice confirmation, a outstanding pedigree, and not to mention and striking bicolor coat (my favorite).  If anyone has any questions about my satisfaction with my dog from Terry at Oelmans Dorf K-9's please feel free to PM me or email me at salisshepherds@gmail.com
I will be going back to Terry in the furture to add to my breeding program.  

-Lindsey
Owner Salis German Shepherds




Below is Rekon's pedigree
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1854964

Hi Lindsay, I'm glad you are happy with your pup, but are you being slightly premature?  Your pup is only, what, 9-10 weeks old?

Your post sounds kind of (ok, a lot) like an ad.

I also bought a young dog from Oelmans Dorf out of Beulah and I can't say I was as pleased as you, however,  I sincerely hope your pup turns out to be the dog you wanted.

I was expecting a 3 year old with IPO3 in upper 90ties.... Come back then... good luck with your puppy.

Oh my!  

Geez RS, what exactly was it that made this sound like an ad.

That's pretty intense line-breeding.

First of all you're not spelling his name right. It's all one word.
Second of all, I'm not impressed with your puppy as in so many other DDR dogs that are bred for nothing but the dollar bill--the DDR dogs were blocky type dogs with big heads. That just looks like a typical shepherd puppy to me.
Third of all, he might be nice to you, but he wasn't nice to me. He had an ad up and he was going to have sable puppies. I knew there was no way that was possible--at the time I was still talking to Judy Malone and I believe one of her studs was the father--I thought since she had told me so much about him he wouldn't mind a little friendly advice. Well he did and ended up going off on me.
Fourth I wouldn't deal with anyone who deals with Judy.
Last but not least--what kind of a breeding program are you trying to run if you buy bitches from someone who breeds blues, whites and livers? And then you have a big picture of a white dog in your parade of dogs on your site. I like your Grafental bitch and I don't know how you think this puppy is much better than her.
Guess that pure DDR pedigree impresses you.
I started to just delete this and keep my mouth shut but I'm sorry folks I just couldn't......
I forgot to add this question--not only the white dog but what part does the Panda play in your program? Also you claim working dogs but a bitch with a solid Am CH and Grand Victor pedigree isn't a working dog...........
I joke about my mutts but if these are your breeding dogs then they really are mutts........................

vonissk,
"Last but not least--what kind of a breeding program are you trying to run if you buy bitches from someone who breeds blues, whites and livers?"

That one's easy, vonissk--when one is breeding Pandas and whites in addition to the colors that are accepted in the breed standard, buying breeding stock from those who breed blues and livers is a shrewd business move...betcha the OP is just salivating over the possibility of getting a liver or blue pup out of one of those females, and will readily breed them if they get them.

Hundmutter, you're being quite discreet when you refer to the 'linebreeding'.  The pedigree provided falls into my definition of inbreeding, since genetically it's basically half-brother bred to half-sister.  Better start lighting candles and saying novenas that what's back there in the genes of the U-litter Popitz don't have any significant health or developmental issues hidden within, that's for sure.

Coming soon to a shelter near you! 

Lindsay, I hope the reactions in this thread will spur you to look into just what it is you're doing. You have  A LOT of dogs for someone of your experience level. Additionally, what type homes are you expecting? How about a few generations down the line? These puppies from your kennel are destined to the pound, and if not them, then their offspring if their owners decide to breed them as you're doing. Not to be unkind, but the fact is that you're not producing anything that you can't get at the pound already, and that's a real problem. People will buy them because all puppies are cute, then life changes, they want to get rid of the dog, and bred like it is, it's not worth a dime, sadly. Also, I don't know what you're charging, but for this quality, I can't imagine very much, and really, either way, you're selling to the most inexperienced buyers out there, which never bodes well for the poor dogs. 

I am sorry your first post got such a reaction, but honestly, a glance at your website tells us exactly why you're so impressed with this new pup (best wishes on him, sincerely!) and on a forum of fairly serious enthusiasts, it doesn't sit well. Hope you will swallow your pride and stick around and maybe open your mind to what it is we're trying to say and why. 

You're right Hexe that dollar bill doesn't just speak volumes--it screams them. Also when you check out that pup's pedigree the sire has no kind of title or hip/elbow ratings. I looked at his site not long ago and that male is a decent looking dog but I don't think there were any kind of health clearences on the site either.

Also I'll tell you quick I am not against tight linebreeding or inbreeding BUT the bottom line is you have to KNOW the dogs and their strengths and weaknesses--not what Joe Blow the BYB down the road told you he heard somewhere. And when you start breeding just to make a certain line of dogs and not knowing the dogs or what line compliments what line, then yep you are going to run into problems. I saw the ad he had up for those puppies and I did a mating test on the male and female and just shook my head.

Hey Jenn since I am going to foster in the near future maybe I will get lucky. I chuckled when I saw your post...............But a sad chuckle because it is so true.........Also when I clicked submit==I saw the rest of your post. Very good post. Lindsay you are a human and you are free to choose whatever you want to do. I don't give a damn really what you do EXCEPT for the dogs and I hate to see them caught up into something they have NO choice over. I am passionate about this breed and their rep needs to continue to be built up not torn down--if you are trying to build a line, you are going backwards. If you are trying to make pets there are zillions pf nice well bred dogs in the shelter. If you are trying to make working dogs again you are backpedaling. And I agree with Jen that is a lot of dogs to have for someone as inexperienced as you seem to be. I only have 5, 2 altered and 1 puppy and they are a handful.................