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by Preston on 29 September 2012 - 04:09
by BabyEagle4U on 29 September 2012 - 14:09
As with most MSM the news reports are misleading. They focus on hackers - when the bottom line is who has access. Not who will gain access. I know this first hand, but before I knew the bottom line - I too blamed hackers. I found out that isn't the case.
After the primaries I was asked to join a group of people investigating nation wide vote fraud. At first, I was skeptical because I wasn't a lawyer or PI and was shocked I was asked to do something in my county. Actually, I ended up doing what I was asked to do in 3 counties in PA because I own properties in 3 counties.
Anyhows, I joined this group of people thinking "hackers" - help catch the "hackers". I was directed to sit in on a nationwide net meeting held by a University, FEC and a group of lawyers. There was over 1200 people in this meeting and little ole me. I took notes, listed myself in the roll call with address, employment, contact info along with a snapshot of my current drivers license.
That night I got a phone call from a man who asked me .. "do you understand the danger of what your about to do" ? I said yes, but didn't realize the danger that he announced - what do you want me to do. (lol) He told me to call the County Election Office and make an appointment to view the primary results, requesting whoever is in charge of the County Election Board to be present, explaining that I'm a private citizen with a residence in the county and would like to view the results of the primary and ask a few questions. Simple enough, I called made the appointment useing my first name only.
(to be continued - I have a phone call) lol
After the primaries I was asked to join a group of people investigating nation wide vote fraud. At first, I was skeptical because I wasn't a lawyer or PI and was shocked I was asked to do something in my county. Actually, I ended up doing what I was asked to do in 3 counties in PA because I own properties in 3 counties.
Anyhows, I joined this group of people thinking "hackers" - help catch the "hackers". I was directed to sit in on a nationwide net meeting held by a University, FEC and a group of lawyers. There was over 1200 people in this meeting and little ole me. I took notes, listed myself in the roll call with address, employment, contact info along with a snapshot of my current drivers license.
That night I got a phone call from a man who asked me .. "do you understand the danger of what your about to do" ? I said yes, but didn't realize the danger that he announced - what do you want me to do. (lol) He told me to call the County Election Office and make an appointment to view the primary results, requesting whoever is in charge of the County Election Board to be present, explaining that I'm a private citizen with a residence in the county and would like to view the results of the primary and ask a few questions. Simple enough, I called made the appointment useing my first name only.
(to be continued - I have a phone call) lol
by BabyEagle4U on 29 September 2012 - 15:09
I'm going to explain everything as I know it and to warn you this whole adventure into that County Election Office is going to take one hell of a crazy twist before I'm finished with my posts on this thread. I had NO idea what "danger" that man was talking about until I read the Daily News one afternoon on a crime that happened in 1968. Way before I was born.
Anyhow, the appointment was scheduled 7 days after my request. I relayed the message to "dude" and he told me there will be a "man" who will meet me outside the building on the steps the day of my appointment. He told me nothing more, just a man and he will know who I am. (lol) I was thinking this is some pretty fun and exciting stuff.
OK, the day of the appointment. I parked my truck at another building a couple blocks away and walked to the steps of the municiple building. (my dad insisted I do this) I knew instantly of all the people smoking ciggys and talking outside the building WHO was there to meet me. I laughed, and laughed walking towards this man and he laughed too like we've know each other all our lives or something. It was strange. He was sooo outta place and looked soo (black SUV and helicopter type) it was too funny to keep a straight face on me.
All he said to me was .. "you know your questions" ? I said shook my head yes, laughing I just couldn't stop. Then... he said mean like .. "get hold of yourself - this is the only time your giving me the orders - understand me". Well, that straightened me up right quick no more laughing because at that point I knew he is someone of power. I kinda felt insulted the way he said it.
I walked past him up the steps, threw the scanners and body check and to stairs. I took the stairs, he took the elevator. We met a distance from the door of the County Election Office before going in .. he said mean - "ask your questions, speak loud, repeat replys, photograph all documents, I'll join you in 3 and get to know me, now I take notes". I didn't say a word just went into the County Election Board Office.
(to be continued - I must go to work at the Deli for a few hours) lol
Anyhow, the appointment was scheduled 7 days after my request. I relayed the message to "dude" and he told me there will be a "man" who will meet me outside the building on the steps the day of my appointment. He told me nothing more, just a man and he will know who I am. (lol) I was thinking this is some pretty fun and exciting stuff.
OK, the day of the appointment. I parked my truck at another building a couple blocks away and walked to the steps of the municiple building. (my dad insisted I do this) I knew instantly of all the people smoking ciggys and talking outside the building WHO was there to meet me. I laughed, and laughed walking towards this man and he laughed too like we've know each other all our lives or something. It was strange. He was sooo outta place and looked soo (black SUV and helicopter type) it was too funny to keep a straight face on me.
All he said to me was .. "you know your questions" ? I said shook my head yes, laughing I just couldn't stop. Then... he said mean like .. "get hold of yourself - this is the only time your giving me the orders - understand me". Well, that straightened me up right quick no more laughing because at that point I knew he is someone of power. I kinda felt insulted the way he said it.
I walked past him up the steps, threw the scanners and body check and to stairs. I took the stairs, he took the elevator. We met a distance from the door of the County Election Office before going in .. he said mean - "ask your questions, speak loud, repeat replys, photograph all documents, I'll join you in 3 and get to know me, now I take notes". I didn't say a word just went into the County Election Board Office.
(to be continued - I must go to work at the Deli for a few hours) lol
by BabyEagle4U on 30 September 2012 - 03:09
I have a few moments to add to this adventure. So busy. A friends tractor droke down so I had to go harvest 14 acres of green beans. He should have bought a John Deere !!
Ok, I walked into room 209, there was someone sitting at every desk all looking at me like deer in headlights. I said to the lady I have an appointment with so and so and so and so. She said they are not in the office, but she had orders to show me all precinct data, absentee ballots, siggys etc and can answer any question I had. The man walks in (I'll call him "dude 2") and he walked to the lady at the desk acting like he needed directions to an office that wasn't even in the building it was at the capital building. (lol) He gets angry telling some story - I knew it was BS so acted like he wasn't even there.
I was not leaving that office until I spoke to so and so and so and so and the 6 stacks of info she sat on the table I knew I would be there for hours if not the whole damn day. So I got to work on what I needed to review and record.
Then "dude 2" comes over to my table and says "you look like your confused and could use some help" (lol) WTF ya I had alot to frikkin do, each stack of documents was like 2 feet high and I had to photograph and record all info. He knew this and was being a smartarse, again. I hate that.
I said I know what I'm doing and you can flip the pages while I photograph and record siggys on microfilm. With his help, we completed all I needed to do with the data in 5 hours and 1 hour to spare before the close of the day. I bet we said a total of 7 sentences that whole 5 hours and the 1/2 dozen people sitting at desks said nothing at all, not even a phone call came in. He was fast, I was fast and the technology I was useing to record and photograph was flawless.
He helped me take the 6 stacks of primary data back over to the ladies desk and all the lady said was "have everything you need" ? and "noone has ever done that before". I said no, I have an appointment to see so and so and so and so could you tell them I'm waiting. She made a phone call.
While I was waiting for those two knuckle heads to finally show up to my appointment, "dude 2" started asking questions like do I have kids, am I married, am I from the area - stupid stuff, but I could see where he was going with it. He was playing it off like he was interested in me just to have an excuse to stay in room 209. (lol) Then he said, "do you want to have coffee, I can wait for you here then we can go have a chat about those boots of yours" I was like WTF again, why is he making these wise cracks now about my boots. I said ok, but I was mad has hell. (he told me later it was a reference to a song - I'll post it in the music thread) lol
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Ok, I walked into room 209, there was someone sitting at every desk all looking at me like deer in headlights. I said to the lady I have an appointment with so and so and so and so. She said they are not in the office, but she had orders to show me all precinct data, absentee ballots, siggys etc and can answer any question I had. The man walks in (I'll call him "dude 2") and he walked to the lady at the desk acting like he needed directions to an office that wasn't even in the building it was at the capital building. (lol) He gets angry telling some story - I knew it was BS so acted like he wasn't even there.
I was not leaving that office until I spoke to so and so and so and so and the 6 stacks of info she sat on the table I knew I would be there for hours if not the whole damn day. So I got to work on what I needed to review and record.
Then "dude 2" comes over to my table and says "you look like your confused and could use some help" (lol) WTF ya I had alot to frikkin do, each stack of documents was like 2 feet high and I had to photograph and record all info. He knew this and was being a smartarse, again. I hate that.
I said I know what I'm doing and you can flip the pages while I photograph and record siggys on microfilm. With his help, we completed all I needed to do with the data in 5 hours and 1 hour to spare before the close of the day. I bet we said a total of 7 sentences that whole 5 hours and the 1/2 dozen people sitting at desks said nothing at all, not even a phone call came in. He was fast, I was fast and the technology I was useing to record and photograph was flawless.
He helped me take the 6 stacks of primary data back over to the ladies desk and all the lady said was "have everything you need" ? and "noone has ever done that before". I said no, I have an appointment to see so and so and so and so could you tell them I'm waiting. She made a phone call.
While I was waiting for those two knuckle heads to finally show up to my appointment, "dude 2" started asking questions like do I have kids, am I married, am I from the area - stupid stuff, but I could see where he was going with it. He was playing it off like he was interested in me just to have an excuse to stay in room 209. (lol) Then he said, "do you want to have coffee, I can wait for you here then we can go have a chat about those boots of yours" I was like WTF again, why is he making these wise cracks now about my boots. I said ok, but I was mad has hell. (he told me later it was a reference to a song - I'll post it in the music thread) lol
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by BabyEagle4U on 30 September 2012 - 04:09
2 guys walked into the office (one very young the other obviously one of the so and so's), passed right by us saying nothing and went into an office in the very back (almost looked like a closet) and said absolutely nothing to me or anyone sitting at a desk. I sat there waiting till 25 minutes before the close of the day before I got up to ask the lady if they are ever going to show up for my appointment. She said they are here and have been here for the past 20 minutes. I was like WTF, again. But I kept my wits and asked her to let them know I'm sitting in the office waiting.
Not even 2 minutes later both guys that walked past me came out of the closet looking office and introduced them selves and said "you must be ..." and they knew exactly who I was ... one recited my full name middle name included, address and where I graduated from, how old I was just the whole rundown like I didn't know myself or something. How in the hell did they know that .. I just told them them the day I requested the appointment my name was Melissa only. So, I said .. how do you know who I am because I never mentioned my last name - so and so said "I know everything". I said great I have some questions for you. Then he said "maybe I have the answers" (lol) Unbelievable. I knew I was dealing with some real game winners here. (lol)
I asked questions about the the chain of custody of election equiptment, the central tabulator, ballot configuration files collecting all the mod names dating back as far as they told me. Most of my questions were answered, some I had to repeat with different wording so most of the questions did get answered. But, because I did all the data on microfilm and recorded by hand some notes off the data stacks - I knew he lied especially with the central tabulator questions .. I could tell both so and so's did not like my questions and gave me a hard time with wise cracks and changing the subject all too often. The appointment took well over an hour with no small talk on my end. I was on a mission. (lol)
Left the little closet area and went back out to the front of room 209 and the place is packed guards standing everywhere with their hands crossed in front of them. It was intimidating to walk into, but I did and was glad "dude 2" came right over to me and said "how about that coffee" ? I said .. lets go. It was CRAZY like some movie scene or something.
When we got outta room 209 he took the stairs with me and told me there is a car pulled up out front we are both getting in it.
Got in the car, the driver took us both back to my place and we had coffee. They left with everything I collected. I left my truck there for a couple days and got a parking ticket. (lol) This is when he told me about why I was the one to do what I was asked to do.
This story of mine is long and boring (lol).. but, this is how I learned about election fraud.
"Dude 2" explained to me about a unsolved murder of a 14 year old girl in Lebanon that happened back in 1968. This was a brutal brutal murder of a kid in her own appt with a hunting bow when her mother was away. I can't say too much or I'll be shot prolly but you can read about it if you google J u s t i c e D e n i e d T h e U n s ol v e d M u r d e r of P e g g y R e b e r. It's tragic. What I can tell you is the people involved in that murder and the election history in Lebanon City is no coincidence. It's CRAZY !!
I could go on and on and skipped alot of stuff but I'm tired. It's been a long 2 days.
If you have some time check out that Peggy Reber Murder. Read the book Justice Denied by Michelle Gooden, I did, and you will know what I'm talking about. If you do google keep in mind the news articles are not all truth. You need to read Michelles book to know the truth.
I'm still alive and well though, but it's no wonder why all those guards were there staring at me ... whoever called them to be present .. knows their days are numbered. I can't believe I was the first person to do what I did in room 209 and 45 years later.
Thanks for reading my story. (lol) Elections are NOT hacked - they are CONTROLLED !!!!
Not even 2 minutes later both guys that walked past me came out of the closet looking office and introduced them selves and said "you must be ..." and they knew exactly who I was ... one recited my full name middle name included, address and where I graduated from, how old I was just the whole rundown like I didn't know myself or something. How in the hell did they know that .. I just told them them the day I requested the appointment my name was Melissa only. So, I said .. how do you know who I am because I never mentioned my last name - so and so said "I know everything". I said great I have some questions for you. Then he said "maybe I have the answers" (lol) Unbelievable. I knew I was dealing with some real game winners here. (lol)
I asked questions about the the chain of custody of election equiptment, the central tabulator, ballot configuration files collecting all the mod names dating back as far as they told me. Most of my questions were answered, some I had to repeat with different wording so most of the questions did get answered. But, because I did all the data on microfilm and recorded by hand some notes off the data stacks - I knew he lied especially with the central tabulator questions .. I could tell both so and so's did not like my questions and gave me a hard time with wise cracks and changing the subject all too often. The appointment took well over an hour with no small talk on my end. I was on a mission. (lol)
Left the little closet area and went back out to the front of room 209 and the place is packed guards standing everywhere with their hands crossed in front of them. It was intimidating to walk into, but I did and was glad "dude 2" came right over to me and said "how about that coffee" ? I said .. lets go. It was CRAZY like some movie scene or something.
When we got outta room 209 he took the stairs with me and told me there is a car pulled up out front we are both getting in it.
Got in the car, the driver took us both back to my place and we had coffee. They left with everything I collected. I left my truck there for a couple days and got a parking ticket. (lol) This is when he told me about why I was the one to do what I was asked to do.
This story of mine is long and boring (lol).. but, this is how I learned about election fraud.
"Dude 2" explained to me about a unsolved murder of a 14 year old girl in Lebanon that happened back in 1968. This was a brutal brutal murder of a kid in her own appt with a hunting bow when her mother was away. I can't say too much or I'll be shot prolly but you can read about it if you google J u s t i c e D e n i e d T h e U n s ol v e d M u r d e r of P e g g y R e b e r. It's tragic. What I can tell you is the people involved in that murder and the election history in Lebanon City is no coincidence. It's CRAZY !!
I could go on and on and skipped alot of stuff but I'm tired. It's been a long 2 days.
If you have some time check out that Peggy Reber Murder. Read the book Justice Denied by Michelle Gooden, I did, and you will know what I'm talking about. If you do google keep in mind the news articles are not all truth. You need to read Michelles book to know the truth.
I'm still alive and well though, but it's no wonder why all those guards were there staring at me ... whoever called them to be present .. knows their days are numbered. I can't believe I was the first person to do what I did in room 209 and 45 years later.
Thanks for reading my story. (lol) Elections are NOT hacked - they are CONTROLLED !!!!
by Preston on 30 September 2012 - 05:09
Bravo, BabyEagle4U, what a great story. It takes courage to do what you did. Thanks for doing what was right.
Quite a number of years back, I knew a local election judge, actually a very honest woman who had been an election judge for many years in my area. One year I asked her if she had ever heard about News Election Services (now defunct) and the vote fraud linked to it and electronic voting machines in general. She said no and didn't believe it existed but that she would examine any materials suggesting that. I gave her the research materials and she read them and studied them (these explained how vote fraud was done on the machines in our area).
I later heard that after the election she had asked to examine and count the ballots and compare them to the totals. In order to do this one had to go to another offsite location where the votes were taken. I never heard what happened specifically but the word was she decided to retire suddenly soon after this and move to a different part of the country and wouldn't talk about anything related to this even to other election judge friends of many years. Word was she was "spooked", and apparently someone higher up got to her and scared the heck out of her and told her to back off.
I did not pursue anything directly myself because of my occupation at the time would have been affected negatively, but I concluded that the voting process was likely tampered with via the electronic voting machines.
BE, I would like to read about the rest of your story and find out how it turned out.
Quite a number of years back, I knew a local election judge, actually a very honest woman who had been an election judge for many years in my area. One year I asked her if she had ever heard about News Election Services (now defunct) and the vote fraud linked to it and electronic voting machines in general. She said no and didn't believe it existed but that she would examine any materials suggesting that. I gave her the research materials and she read them and studied them (these explained how vote fraud was done on the machines in our area).
I later heard that after the election she had asked to examine and count the ballots and compare them to the totals. In order to do this one had to go to another offsite location where the votes were taken. I never heard what happened specifically but the word was she decided to retire suddenly soon after this and move to a different part of the country and wouldn't talk about anything related to this even to other election judge friends of many years. Word was she was "spooked", and apparently someone higher up got to her and scared the heck out of her and told her to back off.
I did not pursue anything directly myself because of my occupation at the time would have been affected negatively, but I concluded that the voting process was likely tampered with via the electronic voting machines.
BE, I would like to read about the rest of your story and find out how it turned out.
by BabyEagle4U on 01 October 2012 - 03:10
Hummm, well, the P e g g y R e b e r case was reopened by a Kevin Snavely. Officer "Mac" went to the CIA to demand justice for Peggy and gave names of the killers - he was found dead in a park "suicide". (he didn't kill himself - but he did get death threats so he switched guns with who he thought would kill him and told the CIA in advance) After Kevin found the physical evidence (all of it - bow included) the Cheif of Police stated in the Daily News all the evidence was lost in a 1972 flood, Kevin turned it over to the CIA - then Kevin was fired. Then the only Police lady in Lebanon took the case file home with her copied it, returned it and turned the copy over to CIA - she was fired. Soo far, 2 additional investigators on the case were killed "suicide" and 2 killed "drive-by shooting" in daylight. NOONE was ever charged in the crimes. Ohh and another Officer that investigated Peggy's murder was found dead crushed between two cars. It's CRAZY shit going on down the mountain !!! I never knew any of this. I did know "Mac" wasn't a suicide - he told everyone he knew - everything he knows even about the death threats.
It's clear those killers are alive and well, knocking off anyone who attempts to expose them, yet the powers that be continue to cover them up.
As far as the the election fraud .. from what I know it's connected to the Reber murder (you must read that book Justice Denied) - it will be a domino effect.
It's clear those killers are alive and well, knocking off anyone who attempts to expose them, yet the powers that be continue to cover them up.
As far as the the election fraud .. from what I know it's connected to the Reber murder (you must read that book J
by BabyEagle4U on 01 October 2012 - 04:10
And I only mentioned the death of police investigators, there's like 15 or so just people who claimed to know who killed Peggy that turned up dead - suicides, drownings, beatings, stabbings, drive-bys over the past 45 years. It's staggering. NOONE was ever convicted and they were all related somehow or connected to Peggy, investigators or the witnesses.
by Preston on 02 October 2012 - 02:10
BE, the only time "the company" typically protects local police who have committed murders is when either drug trafficking, weapons trafficking, human compromise/honey trap ops, or clandestine use of an indian reservation is used for weapon manufacturing. If it is due to vote fraud, it must be covering up some key processes used.
I will read get the book and read it and then give you my view. There has been a lot of this type of intel crime such as the Danny Cassalaro murder, Col. Sabo murder, DC Madam murder, Col. Nick Rowe murder, etc., etc.
Intel criminals invoke national security routinely to cover these major felonies, and there is no real oversight of any kind since 1947 when Roswell occurred and the cold war followed.
I will read get the book and read it and then give you my view. There has been a lot of this type of intel crime such as the Danny Cassalaro murder, Col. Sabo murder, DC Madam murder, Col. Nick Rowe murder, etc., etc.
Intel criminals invoke national security routinely to cover these major felonies, and there is no real oversight of any kind since 1947 when Roswell occurred and the cold war followed.
by BabyEagle4U on 02 October 2012 - 11:10
Ya, get the book and read it. Because I don't want to tell you flat out who the killers are on a public forum. The book will tell you.
After reading the book, you will know the connection to election fraud - keep in mind the Mayor, District Attorney, Sheriff, Constable and Judges are elected positions. Keep also in mind the relationships of all names involved. Although the book doesn't connect all the random deaths except for a drowning of a kid and the 3 soldiers (you need to do some local mining to link them) - evidently some members of the Navy did the investigating and were witnesses with dental impressions.
It's CRAZY !!
After reading the book, you will know the connection to election fraud - keep in mind the Mayor, District Attorney, Sheriff, Constable and Judges are elected positions. Keep also in mind the relationships of all names involved. Although the book doesn't connect all the random deaths except for a drowning of a kid and the 3 soldiers (you need to do some local mining to link them) - evidently some members of the Navy did the investigating and were witnesses with dental impressions.
It's CRAZY !!
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