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by jra on 21 August 2012 - 20:08
My lab has chronic ear infections and we've been battling them for a few years now. I've just been at the vet (new vet since we've relocated) who recommended something other than miconazole, mometamax, animax, etc. which are meds that we've tried in the past. It's called BNT and I can't find too much about it online. She said (and I did find online) that it's a combo of steroid, antibiotic, and antifungal and it was injected into the ears by her. There's no treatment at home, just a recheck in two weeks. She said they've had great success with it, so I'm hopeful.
I've looked up the meds (Baytril, ketoconazole, and triamcinolone) and my dog has had the antibiotic and anti-fungal in different forms in the past. The only one she hasn't had before is the triamcinolone, which is the steroid (she's had steroids before, just not this one). I asked the vet about side effects or if it would impact her hearing since it's like a thick, waxy substance injected in the ear and she said it may affect it in the short-term (like muffling the sounds), but that was about it.
Just wondering if anyone else has experience with it. Thanks.
I've looked up the meds (Baytril, ketoconazole, and triamcinolone) and my dog has had the antibiotic and anti-fungal in different forms in the past. The only one she hasn't had before is the triamcinolone, which is the steroid (she's had steroids before, just not this one). I asked the vet about side effects or if it would impact her hearing since it's like a thick, waxy substance injected in the ear and she said it may affect it in the short-term (like muffling the sounds), but that was about it.
Just wondering if anyone else has experience with it. Thanks.
by Betta Wolf on 21 August 2012 - 21:08
I've used Zymox, before I fed raw.
It is OTC (over the counter, or order on internet) no vet needed.
by hexe on 21 August 2012 - 23:08
Haven't had any personal experience with it, but I do know that this product is extremely popular with vets that treat a lot of dogs that have become aggressively head-shy or uncatchable as a result of the pain they're anticipating from having their ears treated daily. Adverse side-effects have not been reported when the product is used correctly--meaning it's only used when there's no perforation of the ear drum present, which the vet will confirm before infusing the product into the ear canal. It's saved a lot of Labs, Goldens, Cockers and Springer Spaniels from having to have surgery to address the difficult chronic infections those breeds are prone to developing, too.
by jra on 22 August 2012 - 00:08
Betta Wolf - thanks for the info. We tried Zymox once (vet sent us home with it) and it didn't help, but she did have a raging infection that seemed to last for more than a month. Perhaps another go with it is in order.
Hexe - thanks to you also. Fortunately, my dog hasn't become aggressive and seems to know that we're trying to help. But, I have noticed that she more stubbornly hides behind me and refuses to come out on her own if she thinks somebody will be looking at her ears when they're infected. The vet seemed to think this treatment is a 'miracle-worker' and said they've had excellent results with it, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. For as many times as we've had to treat her ear infections, I sometimes wonder if surgery wouldn't be a more prudent option, but it's not something I look forward to.
Thanks again!
Hexe - thanks to you also. Fortunately, my dog hasn't become aggressive and seems to know that we're trying to help. But, I have noticed that she more stubbornly hides behind me and refuses to come out on her own if she thinks somebody will be looking at her ears when they're infected. The vet seemed to think this treatment is a 'miracle-worker' and said they've had excellent results with it, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. For as many times as we've had to treat her ear infections, I sometimes wonder if surgery wouldn't be a more prudent option, but it's not something I look forward to.
Thanks again!
by BlackthornGSD on 22 August 2012 - 01:08
I have just recently (5 days ago) had a vet try the BNT on one of my dogs after hearing how well it worked for a friend of mine with her older dog.
It's a gel that is put into the ear canal (not injected under the skin, just syringed into place) and stays there for 2 weeks. The dog doesn't seem to mind it at all and it seems like the fact that it stays in place where it is needed makes it really effective. So, it's not that the meds are new, it's that the application is improved.
I'd say give it a shot--it was pretty inexpensive (like $16?) at my vet.
It's a gel that is put into the ear canal (not injected under the skin, just syringed into place) and stays there for 2 weeks. The dog doesn't seem to mind it at all and it seems like the fact that it stays in place where it is needed makes it really effective. So, it's not that the meds are new, it's that the application is improved.
I'd say give it a shot--it was pretty inexpensive (like $16?) at my vet.
by Betta Wolf on 22 August 2012 - 03:08
@jra,
When I first used the Zymox, I needed & second ordered the larger bottle.
Took longer to treat the first time!
Best of Luck to what works for your pup!
Reason I went to raw feeding, was that ear infection. Haven't had a problem since; occational 1-2 day treatment with Zymox, but few & far between!
by SitasMom on 22 August 2012 - 03:08
last time i had a dog with recurring earinfection
vet did a deep ear swab, cultured the stuff and had a compounding pharmacy make some eardrops, used them every day until it was gone and the ear infection never came back. it was a resistant bacteria.
did your new vet do a culture?
by jra on 22 August 2012 - 12:08
by jra on 22 August 2012 - 12:08
Blackthorn - She did get the treatment ($17/dose, $34 total since both ears were treated) yesterday and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
SitasMom - She did swab and determined yeast was present, but no bacteria...which has been the standard for my dog. It's part of the reason I'm hesitant to use antibiotics because it's usually only yeast. We'll see what happens with the BNT. Thanks!
Betta Wolf - I may have to look into Zymox again. Maybe the one time I tried it, her infection was so bad, it needed something more (?) Thanks.
SitasMom - She did swab and determined yeast was present, but no bacteria...which has been the standard for my dog. It's part of the reason I'm hesitant to use antibiotics because it's usually only yeast. We'll see what happens with the BNT. Thanks!
Betta Wolf - I may have to look into Zymox again. Maybe the one time I tried it, her infection was so bad, it needed something more (?) Thanks.
by Nans gsd on 22 August 2012 - 15:08
Yes Sita is right; need to do a culture and sensitivity, you are missing the bug. BOL Nan
One of my boys gets the yeasty ears pretty bad and it's ususally from fruits/vegi's and environmental; since raw only one bad time and Zymox did clear it up, however, I still check almost daily and if something looks or smells suspicious, I use vinager wash and clears it right up. My guys were really sore, bloody, and really a smelly mess. Crep upon me and before I knew it I had a real mess on my hands so the vinager helps to clear up the yeast and you can also give l tsp apple cider vinager in food daily and helps with yeasty problems. BOL N
One of my boys gets the yeasty ears pretty bad and it's ususally from fruits/vegi's and environmental; since raw only one bad time and Zymox did clear it up, however, I still check almost daily and if something looks or smells suspicious, I use vinager wash and clears it right up. My guys were really sore, bloody, and really a smelly mess. Crep upon me and before I knew it I had a real mess on my hands so the vinager helps to clear up the yeast and you can also give l tsp apple cider vinager in food daily and helps with yeasty problems. BOL N
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