This is a placeholder text
Group text
by J8822 on 30 July 2012 - 15:07
Anyone have a recommendation for a reputable breeder for a working line pup in or around NY/trisate area? Thanks!
by Nans gsd on 30 July 2012 - 16:07
Eichenluft Working German Sheperds; Molly Graf; (717)776-5110 Carlile Penn. HOme of Bandit von den Wolfsheim BOL Nan
by unclemick on 30 July 2012 - 16:07
We got ours from Goble Kennels in New Hampshire. The do have a web site you can check out. Was looking for a dog that could work and still be a good pet that would settle well in the house. I of course think she is great but also....the people that were brought in to help with the start up of the local Shutzhund club thought she was great too. I'll PM you more if you are interested in all of the details.
P.S. The females that Goble Kennels has that I personally like best are Hunni and Genny.
Good luck in your search,
Mick
P.S. The females that Goble Kennels has that I personally like best are Hunni and Genny.
Good luck in your search,
Mick
by SitasMom on 30 July 2012 - 16:07
conformation lines or working lines?
by workingdogz on 30 July 2012 - 17:07
Start here:
http://germanshepherddog.com/clubs/index.htm
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/clubs.html
http://dvgamerica.com/
Then educate yourself as to what a 'good breeder' is.
Familarize yourself with the 'standard' breed health tests
that should be done-ie: hips/elbows at a bare minimum.
Decide if a 'guarantee' is something important to you, then,
educate yourself on what a guarantee actually says/means.
ie: 'Dog guaranteed against crippling hip/elbow dysplasia'.
What exactly is 'guaranteed' to happen if your dog has this?
And how long does a breeder have to 'make good' on the
guarantee?
Make sure it is to cover a dog not passing, otherwise,
to the 'fast talking' type breeders, 'crippling h/e dysplasia' is
just that-it means Fido has to be dragging itself around before
they are contractually obligated to do anything.
From there, find and visit working dog clubs. Go to a few.
Find the 'type' of dog you like, talk to people. Clubs are
always plentiful with breeders. Watch people train their
dogs, ask them where they got the dogs. Once you meet
with some people and dogs, find the breeder that works
and titles dogs, or at the very least, has done so numerous
times in the past. One thing for sure, you won't meet as
many 'bullshitters' at a real dog club as you will online
If they aren't out there doing something with their dogs,
avoid them like the plague
VERIFY all health tests and working titles through
the appropriate agencies. TRUST no one. Anyone
that will breed a dog with bad hips and/or elbows
will give you a line of shit as to why it's ok.
It's not OK. Ever. If the dog is not OFA'd, a stamped,
or Pennhipped, it never happened.
After you do all that, you will most definately find a
puppy thats just right for you!
http://germanshepherddog.com/clubs/index.htm
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/clubs.html
http://dvgamerica.com/
Then educate yourself as to what a 'good breeder' is.
Familarize yourself with the 'standard' breed health tests
that should be done-ie: hips/elbows at a bare minimum.
Decide if a 'guarantee' is something important to you, then,
educate yourself on what a guarantee actually says/means.
ie: 'Dog guaranteed against crippling hip/elbow dysplasia'.
What exactly is 'guaranteed' to happen if your dog has this?
And how long does a breeder have to 'make good' on the
guarantee?
Make sure it is to cover a dog not passing, otherwise,
to the 'fast talking' type breeders, 'crippling h/e dysplasia' is
just that-it means Fido has to be dragging itself around before
they are contractually obligated to do anything.
From there, find and visit working dog clubs. Go to a few.
Find the 'type' of dog you like, talk to people. Clubs are
always plentiful with breeders. Watch people train their
dogs, ask them where they got the dogs. Once you meet
with some people and dogs, find the breeder that works
and titles dogs, or at the very least, has done so numerous
times in the past. One thing for sure, you won't meet as
many 'bullshitters' at a real dog club as you will online
If they aren't out there doing something with their dogs,
avoid them like the plague
VERIFY all health tests and working titles through
the appropriate agencies. TRUST no one. Anyone
that will breed a dog with bad hips and/or elbows
will give you a line of shit as to why it's ok.
It's not OK. Ever. If the dog is not OFA'd, a stamped,
or Pennhipped, it never happened.
After you do all that, you will most definately find a
puppy thats just right for you!
by unclemick on 30 July 2012 - 17:07
Gobles dogs come from DDR working lines. The only knock against them is that they don't title their dogs but they do have puppies that have gone on to do all types of work (maybe not herding). I heard of them from an internet friend that knew DDR lines pretty well. Our pup Stori would never be able to compete at a national level, but that's not the type of dog I wanted anyway, besides, how many people could actually handle a dog like that?
She does very well at tracking and search and rescue work, and the little bit of bite work the people brought in to help with the start up of the Shutzhund club did with her were very very impressed with how real she was for a 10 month old puppy. Obedience is "OK" just not flashy. Like I said, she is not a dog that could compete at a national level but she could be titled if that's what we were looking to do.
I just wanted a good dog without health problems that was capable of doing SAR work (our last GSD was a mess health wise) and that's what we got.
Their dogs might not be what everybody wants but for us I don't think we could have gotten a better match.
Mick
She does very well at tracking and search and rescue work, and the little bit of bite work the people brought in to help with the start up of the Shutzhund club did with her were very very impressed with how real she was for a 10 month old puppy. Obedience is "OK" just not flashy. Like I said, she is not a dog that could compete at a national level but she could be titled if that's what we were looking to do.
I just wanted a good dog without health problems that was capable of doing SAR work (our last GSD was a mess health wise) and that's what we got.
Their dogs might not be what everybody wants but for us I don't think we could have gotten a better match.
Mick
by J8822 on 30 July 2012 - 17:07
Mick thats basically the temperament type of dog I am looking for. I want to be able to be able to do all the fun sports with my dog but also calm down in the home environment. I also need a dog that is dog friendly as I have an English bulldog and my fiancees Chihuahua
by J8822 on 30 July 2012 - 17:07
Thanks everyone for all the info...will be doing alot of research to make sure I find the right breeder to fit my needs.
by unclemick on 30 July 2012 - 17:07
Been in your part of the country a few times. Hopefully Goble Kennls is close enough to you so that you can go and check them out. I got to know the guy who let me know about Goble Kennels really well on a motorcycle board. The guy was obsessed with DDR line dogs. After talking with him I decided to give German Shepherds another chance, because after all of the problems with our first one I was going to give up on GSD's and get something else. He recommended Goble Kennels and on his recomendation I got a puppy from them.
I'm not going to say that DDR line dogs are better or worse than any of the other lines, I'm not an expert and never claimed to be. I have no doubt you can get great dogs from any of the other lines. I just know what we got and am very happy with the choice we made. I also have no reservations about recommending Goble Kennels, none. As far as the breeder of our first GSD, I believe she is out of business and she should be. That first GSD will be the dog that in my heart I will never be able to replace, but she had a ton of health problems to go with her wonderful temperment, and it cost us a ton of money to keep her around for the 12 years we had her.
Good luck in your search, I'm sure many of the people on this board also have good things to say about their dogs or the breeders they got them from. Don't we all think our dogs are wonderful????
I'm not going to say that DDR line dogs are better or worse than any of the other lines, I'm not an expert and never claimed to be. I have no doubt you can get great dogs from any of the other lines. I just know what we got and am very happy with the choice we made. I also have no reservations about recommending Goble Kennels, none. As far as the breeder of our first GSD, I believe she is out of business and she should be. That first GSD will be the dog that in my heart I will never be able to replace, but she had a ton of health problems to go with her wonderful temperment, and it cost us a ton of money to keep her around for the 12 years we had her.
Good luck in your search, I'm sure many of the people on this board also have good things to say about their dogs or the breeders they got them from. Don't we all think our dogs are wonderful????
by Nans gsd on 01 August 2012 - 00:08
Bandit Vom Wolfsheim (no den) But Molly Graf; Eichenluft Working GSD's.
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top