Pinch Collars and Choke Chains? - Page 1

Curious questions for the trainers.

What is the expectation of using these during training?
Can this same expectation be accomplished with a normal collar and training?

General impressions on the pros / cons on these training collars?

depends on the dog and the trainer.

I would ask a breeder.

Choke does damage to the neck and esophagus as a correction but has the "snap" that can be heard and felt by the dog
Prong collars are designed to "pinch" an area for correction. Not the entire neck but a small area on the dogs neck.
Used correctly prong collars are more humane even though they look like midieval devices to a laymen.

Choke does damage to the neck and esophagus as a correction but has the "snap" that can be heard and felt by the dog
Prong collars are designed to "pinch" an area for correction. Not the entire neck but a small area on the dogs neck.
Used correctly prong collars are more humane even though they look like midieval devices to a laymen.


Please stop providing your ignorant and limited knowledge of Dog Training and the Equipment used in the same, to uneducated people looking for advice.


Anyone looking for advice on Dog Training should do their Research and find a Professional Trainer in their area.


Not here!



JMO


Kim

Start as you mean to go on and use neither.

Mainly depends on the dog itself.

My young dog laughs hysterically at a correction
from a fur saver, he giggles, chuckles and just
plain snickers at the choke chain.

He finds the ability to 'get his shit together' and
work when he met the prong collar.
I use less 'physical force' with a prong than I
had to apply on a fursaver. 

None of the collars mentioned are 'cruel', they can 
however be used in an inhumane/incorrect manner.

But, we've seen 'trainers' be inhumane with a 
flat nylon collar 

Use the tools that work with the dog.
Don't try to make the dog fit with your tools.

When in doubt, find someone with some experience
and seek help.  

Definitely. My trainer mentor showed me how to use the choke collar. It seemed that there were more dogs that ignored it than not. ----------------- I would not use a pinch without pro mentoring. Any suggestions on a professional trainer in either Dallas or east Texas that would mentoring me on the correct use of the collar?

Pirates Liar

Choke collars can damage neck/vertebra and esophagus many trainers do advise against using them One trainer that advises against using chokes because they can damage the dogs neck/vertebras/esophagus, is a nobody Bernhard Flinks sure you have never heard of him guess he's just ignorant with limited training knowledge.
And recommends using the pinch for better correction with out damaging the dogs neck.
I guess me and old dumb ass Bernhard will just shut up and you can handle all questions about training collars from here on out<shrugs>
Oh you can do some research and see what comes up about choke collars and damage to the neck while you are helping the poster research a world renowned professional trainer such as yourself.
JMO

maybe if you like to hang your dogs