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by Shtal on 15 May 2012 - 04:05
My friend bought some german shepherd puppies from a local breeder, he invited me to his home and see the puppies, but then I asked him to show me pedigrees of the sire and dam of the pups. And seeing the pedigrees I got little concern how? - Sire PACO VON DAN, is pure black GSD; where would this gene came from or somebody faked AKC papers.
BTW, I crossed the breeder name; I am not sure if I should expose his name on this forum.


by RLHAR on 15 May 2012 - 04:05
Then the sire is black and tan, could be heterogenous for black and tan (a+AS) carrying through from the sable bitch in the third generation so that would be the second "a" to result in a "aa" puppy when bred to the "aa" bitch.
http://www.ddrlegends.com/gsdcolor.html

by Shtal on 15 May 2012 - 04:05
In this thread YR said http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=182143
winxpman user faked the pedigree, well I just discover TIA VOM Banks Nadelhaus is the same user who submited this dog too.

by Shtal on 15 May 2012 - 04:05
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=633008

by Shtal on 15 May 2012 - 04:05

by Chaz Reinhold on 15 May 2012 - 04:05

by Shtal on 15 May 2012 - 05:05
My friend planning to breed those girls in the future, if the pedigree is fake then later it will get worse after he sells his pups.
Shtal.

by Chaz Reinhold on 15 May 2012 - 05:05

by yellowrose of Texas on 15 May 2012 - 05:05
DID YOU READ THE post I proved that that same man faked the two dogs and the third one had Ramo vi with two different parents for same litter and same litter has two different parentage both sire and dam and RAMOVI CANNOT BE BORN TO TWO DIFFERENT PARENTS , SIRE AND DAM
I HAVE NO CLUE WHICH ONE IS CORRECT.....IS RAMO VI THE SON OF GUS OR SON OF Ozi?
did YOU DO WHAT I TOLD YOU TO DO.
DO YOU SEE TWO RAMO VI PEDIGREES SUBMITTED ..
DO YOU SEE ONE IS WRONG...HOW WOULD I KNOW WHICH ONE IS TRUE....
CALL AKC AND ASK THEM
you CANNOT HAVE TWO PEDIGREES FOR THE SAME DOG WITH THREE PUPS OUT OF 4 PARENTS AND ALL REGISTERED TO THE SAME LITTER
DOG O3 O4 AND 06
yes....one of the pedigrees is fake...MAYbe you do not understand what you saw..
COPY both of the pedigrees on the three pups related to the white shepherd...then look at the two Ramo VI and tell me
ONE is fakE

by yellowrose of Texas on 15 May 2012 - 05:05
go read the this has to be a mistake...
has nothing to do with BLACK gene....RAMO VI was used by this man and he used two versions of it..because I uncovered it..
go read the I found the lie down at end of thread....
YR
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