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by guddu on 02 May 2012 - 01:05
It struck me that the number of pedigreed GSD pups/dogs (WL or SL) with poor nerve seems to be quite high. Pups can be scared of strangers, dogs, surfaces etc. Yet when one looks at the average mutt or non-pedigreed non-GSD pup in puppy class/street, they seem to have better nerve. Most such mutts are not scared of strangers, other dogs, etc and probably dont even get HD!.
Anybody agree ?. If yes, what might be the reasons...I have some ideas, but will wait to see what others say.
Anybody agree ?. If yes, what might be the reasons...I have some ideas, but will wait to see what others say.
by Beardog on 02 May 2012 - 01:05
No difference between the GSD and any other working breed.
by ILGSDs on 02 May 2012 - 01:05
Ive noticed the same thing. GSds seem to be the most difficult
by Gustav on 02 May 2012 - 01:05
There are reasons.....wasn't always this way!!!
by Rik on 02 May 2012 - 02:05
mutts are very seldom selectivly bred for color or single purpose. It is what it is.
by macrowe1 on 02 May 2012 - 02:05
I'm with Rik. Poor breeding. Lots of breeders breed for look or color, not necessarily for nerves. Not to mention the GSD is an extremely emotional breed. With any lack of socialization, there's lack of nerve and impredictability.
by Two Moons on 02 May 2012 - 03:05
Perhaps your experience with the breed is limited, or you only know what you read here.
I will say that if your looking at pedigrees your already going in the wrong direction.
But as a breed the GSD was never meant to be what some of you try to make it.
I have always said I've seen better dogs in back yards than most competitions.
Poor breeding is the correct answer, along with poor training and incomplete socializing.
Moons.
I will say that if your looking at pedigrees your already going in the wrong direction.
But as a breed the GSD was never meant to be what some of you try to make it.
I have always said I've seen better dogs in back yards than most competitions.
Poor breeding is the correct answer, along with poor training and incomplete socializing.
Moons.
by Rik on 02 May 2012 - 04:05
threads like this serve no purpose other than to pit one faction against another. if you want a solid GSD, WL or SL, go and pick it. put your hand on the dog. don't order it off the WWW, cause in the most cases you are going to get the bottom of the pile.
jmo,
Rik
jmo,
Rik
by Rogerpodger on 02 May 2012 - 12:05
Most likely explanation is poor stock and little if any early socialisation and introduction to noises. different surfaces, people and other animals. Even so the best dogs can produce windy pups but this is much less common in working line dogs in my experience. I have a superb Czech / DDR GSD who is bold and confident and balanced. She is not a show dog or KC reg however, I have had them in the past but this one is perfect. When buying a pup always check the parents out as well PM me for advice on pup selection
by guddu on 02 May 2012 - 13:05
The idea was not to put one faction against another, but to consider other reasons, beyond the usual. Thus, my hypotheses, with which one can disagree...
1. Small toy breeds: are generally not afraid of other larger dogs, because they are so tiny and are accustomed to seeing every other dog and human being that is 10-20x their size...might be a genetic thing.
2. Some GSD pups are afraid of various stimuli and are spooks. Is it because they are close descendants of the wolf and shyness is a wolf trait.
Again, I dont think poor socialization has much to do with it, as I assume other dog breed owners socialize their pups equally, probably less than what GSD owners do.
1. Small toy breeds: are generally not afraid of other larger dogs, because they are so tiny and are accustomed to seeing every other dog and human being that is 10-20x their size...might be a genetic thing.
2. Some GSD pups are afraid of various stimuli and are spooks. Is it because they are close descendants of the wolf and shyness is a wolf trait.
Again, I dont think poor socialization has much to do with it, as I assume other dog breed owners socialize their pups equally, probably less than what GSD owners do.
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