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fawndallas

by fawndallas on 16 April 2012 - 23:04

Rose is not registered (yes, this will be her only litter.  yes, it was planned.  yes, the breeding will benefit the breed.  yes, I spent as much having Rose proven [health] for the breeding as if she was registered.  no, I am not going into the breeding business.); Coza (stud) is.  Any puppies that will be sold; I am asking $400 (recommended by stud owner).  This price includes basic training (part of the purpose of the litter is to establish a training reputation).

All that said, is it acceptable for me to request that any buyers have their puppy fixed?  I was even considering to have it done for them for an additional fee.

by SitasMom on 17 April 2012 - 00:04


place an extra 200$ to the price of each puppy and tell new owners that you will give them 200$ when they show proof of spay or neuter.

by Rogerpodger on 17 April 2012 - 13:04

No its not really. It is up to your clients to decide. If you are concerned with unwanted pups or badly bred pups in the future you should not have had your bitch covered. Also I can not think of any vet agreeing to spey / castrate puppies

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 17 April 2012 - 13:04

Take your rose-colored glasses off, Roger. There are oodles of vets clamoring to castrate tiny pups, regardless of the harm it causes them. They make me sick. 

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 17 April 2012 - 14:04

"Rose is not registered (yes, this will be her only litter.  yes, it was planned.  yes, the breeding will benefit the breed. .."

Seriously?  How?

by magdalenasins on 17 April 2012 - 14:04

How is having all the puppies fixed going to benefit the breed? Or are you keeping some back? Which can't be registered (except maybe by the CKC I guess?).

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 17 April 2012 - 14:04

I'm confused how this is to better the breed, especially with you asking that all pups be neutered or spayed. What made you breed her in the first place?

aceofspades

by aceofspades on 17 April 2012 - 23:04

CKC=Continental Kennel Club not to be confused with the Canadian Kennel Club which is a legitimate breed registry.

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 18 April 2012 - 00:04

This is why I did not go into this in the first place.  In general, people are too quick to judge.

1.  I am not asking that the puppies be fixed now.  There is no way I will condone allowing them to be fixed before 3 months.

2. The puppies cannot be registered, because Rose is not registered; neither were her parents.

As for the rest of the questions......

Planned Pregnancy - I spent 2 years verifying Rose's Health and temperment to insure this is what I wanted to do.  I also spent the same amount of time researching and viewing studs to insure their temperment and genetics complimented Rose's.

Litter Purpose - The purpose of the litter is to train and prepare for service dog specialization.  This will help me to establish a proven reputation for training dogs.  Rose had the ideal temperment for a handicap service dog.  I have accually trained her has such for me.  I want to give back the gift I was given in her.
       1 - 2 of the dogs will be donated to a handicap service dog organization; once I have completed the basic training
       1 of the dogs I will fully train for my father as a handicap service dog
       1 -2 of the dogs my family and I are keeping.  There is no intent to breed them.
       Any puppies sold will include basic training with the option to have advanced training. At this point, any training I do will not include protection, show, or working.  Based on the breeding, the puppies should generally have a type 3 temperment.  I would not expect them to do well in any work that will require agressivness.

Best for the Breed - Many GSDs are bred for protection, police work, search, detection, and herding.  It is very difficult to find a GSD breed line that is calm enough for handicap service work.  I found this in Rose and in the Stud.

Why do I want to request for the puppies to be fixed - As Rose is not registered, I do not want any buyers to purchase with the intent to do BYB.

This will be Rose's only litter.  I am not going into the breeding business.  I am working to go into the dog training business. 


vomtreuenhaus

by vomtreuenhaus on 18 April 2012 - 00:04

"It is very difficult to find a GSD breed line that is calm enough for handicap service work. "

That is because this was never their purpose of origination.

" I would not expect them to do well in any work that will require agressivness"


Right, because that would require solid genetics and solid, stable nerve.






 


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