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by HighDesertGSD on 13 March 2012 - 22:03

I am considering a sable stud for my Black and Tan girl.

His sire is black and tan, only his dam is sable.

Is it true that this stud's genotype is not dominant?

That is to say, a good fraction of the pups from breeding with my Black and Tan girl will be black and tan?

Actually, it is not that I don't like sable. It is better to have all dogs of the same color so that no one can swear that I have X number of dogs.

by dragon on 13 March 2012 - 23:03

yes you will get both colours
jeanette

by GSD2727 on 14 March 2012 - 18:03

It depends on what both dogs carry recessively.  If they both carry black recessively, you could get sable, black/tan and black puppies.  If they do not both carry black, then you should get 1/2 sable and 1/2 black/tan puppies.  Of course that doesnt always hold true though :)  When I bred my sable female to a black/tan male we got 6 black/tan puppies and no sables.  

Even if the male's father is black/tan, he could still have gotten the black recessively depending on if it was carried in those lines.  

But assuming there is no black recessives, statistically you should get 1/2 black and tan and 1/2 sable pups.  

Xaver vom Kammberg Owner

by Xaver vom Kammberg Owner on 14 March 2012 - 20:03

I bred my solid black male to a dark sable female, and got all sables!    5 boys and 3 girls   I had not had a litter since 2008, and my group wanted solid blacks, and lots more males.   Litter sold quickly though.


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leoetta

by leoetta on 15 March 2012 - 16:03

This has nothing to do with your original question, just a word of caution be sure to get copies of hip and elbow certifications from the stud owner as well as copies of scorebook, they should be happy to hand these copies over to you with no excuses or hesitation. No matter who the stud owner is, how big or how small be sure to get copies of these things. Not to mention the fact your customers should and may want to see these things.

by HighDesertGSD on 15 March 2012 - 18:03

If the sable is SS not Ss, then all pups will be sable.

If both parenst of the stable stud are sable, then there is a chance of the stud being SS.

But if only one parent is sable, then the stud will not be SS, and will be Ss.

I think this is correct.

I think sable is OK as long as one parent is not sable. I will not be stuck with generations of sable.





 


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