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by Dobermanfan on 14 February 2012 - 18:02
This is probably considered a stupid question. I'm not new to the German Shepherd breed. I am just am new to learning about genetics and coat color, etc.
When a German Shepherd black/bi color has penciling on it's feet. What does this mean? Is this like a brindle patterning? Is their Brindle way way back in the lines. Could it throw a brindle?
When a German Shepherd black/bi color has penciling on it's feet. What does this mean? Is this like a brindle patterning? Is their Brindle way way back in the lines. Could it throw a brindle?
by Felloffher on 14 February 2012 - 18:02
Every black shepherd I've owned has had some brown hair between his toes. Black penciling on a bi-color/sable indicates they carry the black ressive gene.
by Fenrir on 14 February 2012 - 18:02
Black penciling generally means that your dog has what I like to call "A touch of awesome" as clearly the solid black is the most awesome and your dog likely carries the recessive gene. Even if it only a touch of awesome consider yourself lucky to be graced by the solid black goodness.
by Dobermanfan on 14 February 2012 - 19:02
I just want to know at what point does the penciling end and the brindle begin?
by Emoore on 14 February 2012 - 20:02
Isn't brindling on legs horizontal? And penciling comes up from between the toes?
by Kalibeck on 14 February 2012 - 21:02
Pencilling & brindle are 2 different things, not related at all! Way back when GSDs had some brindle supposedly, but I've never seen any or pictures of any that were convincing to me. On the other hand, pencilling is much sought after, because it is the ultimate in dark, rich pigment that the breed standard calls for.
As mentioned above, brindling is noted to be horizontal striping on the legs, while pencilling is on the toes & can extend up the leg in the front & the back, called tar heels.
Hope that helps! jackie harris
As mentioned above, brindling is noted to be horizontal striping on the legs, while pencilling is on the toes & can extend up the leg in the front & the back, called tar heels.
Hope that helps! jackie harris
by Kalibeck on 14 February 2012 - 21:02
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pencilling jackie harrisby Kalibeck on 14 February 2012 - 21:02
I had a brindle picture, too, but for some reason it won't post it. Oh well! jackie harris
by pod on 15 February 2012 - 01:02
Agree with Kaliback in that pencilling and brindle are not related genetically, though they can look similar in darkly pigmented dogs. The main difference is that pencilling is symmetric and brindle, being a somewhat random pattern, is asymmetric.... usually.
ETA: It is very unlikely that the brindle gene remains in the gene pool from early times as the only colours that can carry it unseen are solid blacks (or brown , blue etc) or very darkly pigmented B&Ts or sables.
ETA: It is very unlikely that the brindle gene remains in the gene pool from early times as the only colours that can carry it unseen are solid blacks (or brown , blue etc) or very darkly pigmented B&Ts or sables.
by Siantha on 15 February 2012 - 05:02
Brindle imo :\
more brindle
toe penciling
penceling on a dark sable puppy
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