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have anybody every use this system? 
if so what do you think of it?
What are your comments on it?
And have you ever seen a difference from before of not using it and using it today?

PLEASE GIVE EXAMPLES GOOD OR BAD THANK YOU 

Yes, notice a big improvement in development. Puppies are normally not just starting to walk by 2 weeks old but are running around by 10 days old. Eyes open sooner, wean faster, etc..  Most puppies learn basic sit, down, & attention at 4-5 weeks old.
Most service dog / seeing eye facilities also use this methods with similar results. They say the dogs can handle stress better but I didn't see as much of a difference in this area compare to breeders that don't use this method if their dogs have good genetics. My biggest result was faster development, easier to train, increased in positive socialization with; people, new environments & strange surfaces.




 

hmmm intersting thank you 

This method was designed for military puppies who were born and raised in sterile, concrete environments. In that situation, the biosensor program seems to me almost essential.

However, for a puppy born in a busy home environment and who is naturally handled several times a day and moved out onto the floor while the bedding is changed and who is cuddled and tickled and exposed to a variety of scents and sensations, I'm not convinced that the biosensor program makes a significant difference.

That is, it seems to me that the biosensor activities are designed to mimic the interaction and handling a home-raised (well-cared for) puppy would get, only in a more structured way. So, certainly worth doing if you're not sure the puppies are already getting plenty of sensory stimulation--but necessary on top of those other interactions? I'm not so sure.

Christine

The program was dropped, with no existing scientific proof to validate it's reported benefits.  Contemporary practice for the military breeding program is to place the young in foster homes during their first year of development.  Sensory enriched environments during ALL formative stages of growth are certain to provide some benefit, but ENS (Early Neurologic Stimulation) protocols are BS as far as I'm concerned.  Just a distraction created by a PHd looking to get published and hold seminars at world workingdog conferences.

I've experimented with it with multiple litters, same and different parents for comparison, and found no noticeable differences to support the claims.  It's biggest perk is as an advertising gimmick, IMO.  What's amazing to me, is the bandwagon of belief, religious-like faith that SO MANY people have placed in it, that their perceived results are not always congruent with their actual results.  Besides, how do you measure the "improved immune system" of your litters?  Do you subject them to sickness and disease?

I agree with the above two posters.

I do agree with that it's difficult to tell if the results are from an already enrich environment, lots of handling, & socialization.
I've never seen any improvements in health / stress tolerance that the Bi-senor claims. But have seen a difference in faster rate of development, learning. etc.. like stated before.

BUT I also raise the puppies in my busy family room with tons of attention. So I can't say if the results were from the environment in which they were raised or Bio-senor. We also have a pen filled with wood shavings outside the whelping box for the young puppies to naturally go to to keep their sleeping area clean. After a couple weeks we then open the doggie door panel on our slider which open outside to a large pen. This pen is also covered in wood shaving, but have other surfaces spread around the pen. The pen has various obstacles for the puppies to climb & tunnels. Plus the pen is filled with strange objects to investigate & toys. At this point the puppies can run outside into the pen or back inside to their whelping box inside our family room freely. We spend time with each puppy indivisibly & together as a group. I take different puppies out on outings in a small dog duffel bag daily starting at 4 weeks old. The puppies get free time through out our home &
yard.

My friends that breed their litters in garage / basements / kennels that also use the Bio-senor do not see the rapid development & learning like I do with both benefits of Bio-senor & environment. I strongly feel if I had to give one up it would be the bio-senor instead of enrich highly social environment. But I enjoy doing both & have learn to spot certain temperament qualities from young puppies reactions to the bio-senor which I like to keep results in many charts.

Bio-senor plays a huge role still in most service dog breeding programs, since most litters are whelped in a very plain sterile environment.
I've seen the benefits of doing it, but I've also seen many many breeders that don't do it & you really can't tell the difference in the puppies.
Service dog programs have a higher success rate of dogs becoming seeing eye / service dogs from dogs that had the bio-senor than those that did not. But once again their environments in most cases are limits in enrichment.

It doesn't hurt the puppies to try it & see for yourself if you like the results. If you don't no harm done.

  

darylehret.... Besides, how do you measure the "improved immune system" of your litters?  Do you subject them to sickness and disease?

I guess if you intend to measure differences between with/without bio-sensor, then in the same litter (where the litter is pretty typey and not highly variable like with an out-cross), you need to subject some of the pups to the program, while keeping others away from it.  And then keep on evaluating them as they grow into adults.  Of course that is not something you can do casually, and will need long-term dedication.

My field Lab pup had gone through the bio-sensor program (along with the rest of his litter) and he has absolutely no fear when he encounters new things, absolutely no hesitation when he is led onto different surfaces (where he has never been before), learns things quickly and has NEVER fallen ill in over 6 months (touching firmly on wood of course)......never needed to be dewormed either.  Not sure if it is his genetics or the program.

Keeping it short: I have noticed with my litters (used repeat breedings to test it), pups from litters that were exposed to stresses such as being held on their backs, having temps adjusted a tad too warm, a tad too cool, etc showed more confidence and were calmer than puppies I left in perfect sleeping piles till their eyes opened. By using same dam-sire combinations I tried to keep parential genetics from influencing my results. I used a working line pair for several breedings, and a show line pair for several others. I documented stimuli and results; as well as factors like ambient temp, time of year, mothers' behaviors, etc. My preliminary results shows it makes a very notable difference, that does carry into adulthood. Of course, if the dog is not worked with, the results are lessened as it ages; but it shows what happens even before eyes and ears open makes a difference in how their brains develope, and more mild stresses and stimuli yields positive results than no stress/stimulation during those first few days.

It is my hypothesis than a lot of neural pathways are being constructed in that neonatal period; and dogs exposed to less than sleepy-perfect existence during those first few days are better able to cope with stress and environmental changes as growing dogs and adults.