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Petros

by Petros on 08 October 2006 - 08:10

Anyone has any idea regarding how long breeding takes? My male dog was bred to one of my females and the stayed attached for approx. 15 min. Is this normal or something happened and broke the bond? From my experience the bonding should last 25-40 minutes...

Sue-Ann

by Sue-Ann on 08 October 2006 - 11:10

A single 15 minute tie can bring a full litter of pups. No worries. Put them together again in two days and see what happens. I've seen ties as long as 50 minutes. Duration of the tie is insignificant vs the timing within the bitch's cycle. Good luck.

by eichenluft on 08 October 2006 - 13:10

the length of the tie doesnt' matter. It's the first few minutes that are what matters - after that's it's just wait until everything relaxes - the act is over long before that. molly

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 08 October 2006 - 13:10

A fifteen-minute tie is very normal. The tie is critical for breeding, but the length of the tie is not so critical. Bob-O

by SGBH on 08 October 2006 - 13:10

Why is the tie "critical" for breeding? Stephen

by amir on 08 October 2006 - 14:10

I think that Bob want to tell that is important for successful mate and breeding to have tie and every length better then few minutes is not critical.

by amir on 08 October 2006 - 14:10

I forget - critical is if you have not got tie.

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 08 October 2006 - 14:10

Stephen, I read a long time ago that the breeding, as far as the male is concerned, is a two-part process. The semen is but one (1) part of the ejaculate, and the second part of the ejaculate consists of fluid that corrects the pH level of the bitch's vagina and allows the sperm to live longer during their mission. This part is injected during the tie. I thought about that as I typed the statement, and wished that I had the technical document in front of me. I know that dogs have bred successfully without a tie, but the tie is part of nature's process for dog breeding, and I don't know of any other mammal (there may be several) that requires this type of action. During semen extraction for an AI, of course the is but one (1) part of the ejaculate collected. This is no doubt okay, as it is either injected into the vagina with a syringe, or implanted directed into the uterus horns with a surgical procedure. I know that during an assisted breeding, if the penile bulb swells before penetration, then the practice is to physically hold the male in place for at least five (5) minutes for the final ejaculate to occur. Good question, Stephen. I will look for that document and see if I can find it. Bob-O

by AileenJim on 08 October 2006 - 15:10

Hi all, we have been lucky in our matings over the years and never had what some call a "slip tie". As above the length of tie is not important albeit you hear all sorts of tales about this. My knowledge is that there are THREE (3)parts to the male's work - First,is the finding of the correct area and working his way inwards a slower type of movement. Secondly once there he then makes a different more determined movement - thrusting, gets closer in to the bitch usually grasping under her belly very tightly with his paws and this is when the ejaculatin occurs and last but not least Thirdly he slows down, usually still clasped round her and begins to relax, once relaxed he will usually release his grip and try to turn himself (some males need help to turn and others do it themselves) and this is the stage where the fluid is pushed in as stated above to aid passage of sperm and to change the pH for prolonged sperm life. This I believe to be the normal way of things and with experience you can see each stage occur. A slip tie on the other hand can mean the stage 1 and stage 2 occurred without the gripping and no tie - this type of tie has been known to produce puppies but sometimes not - luck of the draw as they say. Most breeders like to see a tie, but the time of it is not critical at all. Please correct any of this if I have gone astray anywhere.

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 08 October 2006 - 15:10

AileenJim, what you stated is very much what I understand about canine reproduction and the importance of the tie. Bob-O





 


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