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by maliman on 12 July 2011 - 04:07
by Duderino on 12 July 2011 - 17:07

by Chaz Reinhold on 15 July 2011 - 03:07
by Marco vHB on 17 July 2011 - 07:07
At eight years old, I can still ask him "do you want to work" and you might guess how he answers.
I accomplished a lot less than this dog deserves, but that was mainly a result of my having moved into the desert southwest and losing my core training group.
My next dog will most likely be from (or descendant of) the de Tourbiere lines. Have fun. Breeding this dog?
by Duderino on 17 July 2011 - 13:07
by maliman on 17 July 2011 - 13:07

by SportySchGuy on 17 July 2011 - 16:07
Nothing wrong with Dutch lines. A lot of people don't like things they can't handle. Ha Ha!
by Duderino on 17 July 2011 - 17:07
Grips and nerves. Not so good for the sport of SchH. A friend of mine who's in the process of getting a puppy from across the pond, was just on the phone last week with a breeder who mentioned that years ago he had a dog from the Perle de Tourbiere kennel and that grips are a big problem and also a concern of Jan Tinnemans. Short grips and fragile nerves are fine for police work as the majority of departments are looking to K9's for detection work and not necessarily handler protection. Two teeth on a street grip are fine as long as the dog hands on but growly and chewy grips won't make it on the SchH/IPO field.

by Hired Dog on 18 July 2011 - 12:07
As far as nerves, I tend to agree that after the mass production of the KNPV Malinois in the last 20 years, the breed in Holland has indeed suffered. The popularity of KNPV Malinois being in demand all over the world as working dogs in the last 20 years has not gone without the breed suffering and yes, there are nerve problems within it.
So far as grips and nerves are concerned, you will be hard pressed to find better dogs then those produced for the NVBK in Belgium. Those dogs are still bred and trained for the toughest dog sport in the world. In my opinion there are no better bred working dogs, able to do anything asked of them then NVBK line Malinois.
by vincentpmchugh on 19 July 2011 - 08:07
Dud tell your friend to call Jan if he wants to know about grips not some other person who is trying to sell him a dog, that is a big line of crap. To question a dogs nerves that train and title in the hardest certification program in the world is retarded. These lines are not bred for sport they are intense dogs with pronounced aggression and they have rock solid nerves, confidence out the ass and deep hard grips loaded with aggression and fight. Dud to agree with SportySchGuy Dutch Line Malinois are way too much for you to handle, so I can understand.
If you want to know about the Perle de Tourbiere Kennel then call Jan as I have or call many of the people that have and use his dogs in there breeding program.
To attempt to question an entire bloodline that has produced some of the most influential Malinois in the world is insane, Jan's dogs are impeccable creatures and no one has done as much for the breed as he has.
If you want a real dog get a Dutch dog!!!
As for shallow grips her is a Son of Dylan Perle de Tourbiere with his two teeth on the sleeve.
As for you Dud yet again you open your mouth and type away and all that comes out of it is useless rhetoric and hallucinations of what is truth.
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