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by mpaco on 08 July 2011 - 21:07
IS THE GERMAN SIEGER SHOW WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP EVENT NEED YOUR ANSWERS PLEASE
by Silbersee on 09 July 2011 - 02:07
Yes!
by Jantie on 09 July 2011 - 07:07
NO!
Some people say the "world championship" for German Shepherds would be the "Bundessiegerprüfung", but it's not correct, as it's about Germany only.
There is a WUSV-event allowing competitors from WUSV-countries (which is hardly "The World"), but there is an FCI-event yet way above this! THAT is a worldchampionship (worthy of the name).
A worldchampion for instance would be Ronny Van den Berghe (check for Eros von der Mohnwiese, Tom van 't Leefdaalhof and Como vom Bonauer Wald).
The show dog (as seen at the Hauptzuchtschau you mention mPaco) doesn't have the necessary qualities a GSD needs.
It runs around in circles only,
one must shove the sleeve into its mouth,
and it will waggle its tail at a burglar.
You can hardly call such a dog a "Worldchampion", can you?!
A SHOW is what it says, it's a "spectacle", and in fact, only a marketing instrument for a few big breeders as described in my revenues exercise (check there).
Places have been determined way up front (by corrupt judges), as last documented with the story of Toni von der Rieser Perle (sales agreement included in the information).
On the gravy train 2011: Reinhardt Meyer and Josephine Kao.
Business as usual!
Kind regards,
Jantie Demeyere
B-8570 Vichte
Some people say the "world championship" for German Shepherds would be the "Bundessiegerprüfung", but it's not correct, as it's about Germany only.
There is a WUSV-event allowing competitors from WUSV-countries (which is hardly "The World"), but there is an FCI-event yet way above this! THAT is a worldchampionship (worthy of the name).
A worldchampion for instance would be Ronny Van den Berghe (check for Eros von der Mohnwiese, Tom van 't Leefdaalhof and Como vom Bonauer Wald).
The show dog (as seen at the Hauptzuchtschau you mention mPaco) doesn't have the necessary qualities a GSD needs.
It runs around in circles only,
one must shove the sleeve into its mouth,
and it will waggle its tail at a burglar.
You can hardly call such a dog a "Worldchampion", can you?!
A SHOW is what it says, it's a "spectacle", and in fact, only a marketing instrument for a few big breeders as described in my revenues exercise (check there).
Places have been determined way up front (by corrupt judges), as last documented with the story of Toni von der Rieser Perle (sales agreement included in the information).
On the gravy train 2011: Reinhardt Meyer and Josephine Kao.
Business as usual!
Kind regards,
Jantie Demeyere
B-8570 Vichte
by mpaco on 09 July 2011 - 09:07
many thanks to you JANITE i am really appreciated for this worthy info
but who is the world champion for 2011 is he the one who will be the VA1 in germany after 2 months or the one who will won in france in te world dog show which its run today
by Silbersee on 09 July 2011 - 10:07
Jantie,
what you wrote is your opinion and everyone has one. However, this is not what the original poster had wanted to know. Your hatred for the SV is wellknown. You do know who runs the WUSV and where its "virtual" headquarters is located, do you?
At one time you had wanted to be just like these exhibitors and have your dog run in circles, remember? Preferences change but that does not mean to look down and be derogatory towards others who still do these activities.
MPaco,
The Bundessiegerzuchtschau ( National Breed Show) - Hauptzuchtschau is an old definition which is not used anymore - is at the same time the "Weltchampionat fuer Deutsche Schaeferhunde" (World Championship for German Shepherd Dogs). It is designated as such. Exhibitors and visitors see these signs every year they attend - can't be overlooked.
The SV Bundessiegerpruefung is a National SchH3 Competition in Germany, only open for German residents. The WUSV World Championship (Working Trial) is the international event for GSDs.
what you wrote is your opinion and everyone has one. However, this is not what the original poster had wanted to know. Your hatred for the SV is wellknown. You do know who runs the WUSV and where its "virtual" headquarters is located, do you?
At one time you had wanted to be just like these exhibitors and have your dog run in circles, remember? Preferences change but that does not mean to look down and be derogatory towards others who still do these activities.
MPaco,
The Bundessiegerzuchtschau ( National Breed Show) - Hauptzuchtschau is an old definition which is not used anymore - is at the same time the "Weltchampionat fuer Deutsche Schaeferhunde" (World Championship for German Shepherd Dogs). It is designated as such. Exhibitors and visitors see these signs every year they attend - can't be overlooked.
The SV Bundessiegerpruefung is a National SchH3 Competition in Germany, only open for German residents. The WUSV World Championship (Working Trial) is the international event for GSDs.
by Jantie on 09 July 2011 - 10:07
A "VA-title" has to do with exihibition-dogs - Ausstellungshunde - show dogs only.
It is the abbreviation of "Vorzüglich - Auslese" (awarded to the best looking dogs only - anywhere from 8 to 14 participants at the national Siegershow).
Now the VA1-titel or Sieger-Title will be awarded at the biggest show-dog event at the beginning of september in Nürnberg.
It will most likely be Remo vom Fichtenschlag who takes it away this year (NOT because he is the best dog, but because he has been promoted to be the alleged best) as he is owned by Josephine Kao, the most important dealer of GSD's. She is a professional dealer/broker living in Taiwan and making big bucks with selling dogs
(Check last years results!) although "business" is prohibited in the SV - see statutes, and Kao therefore should be banned.
She will come to the biggest events in Germany (Landesgruppenzuchtschauen), live in the house of Ottmar Grünewald (kennel vom Kuckucksland) for a couple of months and visit her friend Reinhardt Meyer, wherever he decides who will be amongst the next champions.
Watch out for Whisky Wasserkuppe and Blianka Osterberger Land this year.
Reinhardt Meyer would be the rightfull owner of these dogs, although you will not see this printed anywhere.
The dogs will be registered under the names of Harald Stock and Helmut Wenderoth, and the judge-to-be Wolfgang Meinen will be the handler!
It's all a big hoax, and it's all about the money. Don't you even think of bringing your dogs to this event.
The places have been assigned long before the show!
Tell me more about the French show!
It is the abbreviation of "Vorzüglich - Auslese" (awarded to the best looking dogs only - anywhere from 8 to 14 participants at the national Siegershow).
Now the VA1-titel or Sieger-Title will be awarded at the biggest show-dog event at the beginning of september in Nürnberg.
It will most likely be Remo vom Fichtenschlag who takes it away this year (NOT because he is the best dog, but because he has been promoted to be the alleged best) as he is owned by Josephine Kao, the most important dealer of GSD's. She is a professional dealer/broker living in Taiwan and making big bucks with selling dogs
(Check last years results!) although "business" is prohibited in the SV - see statutes, and Kao therefore should be banned.
She will come to the biggest events in Germany (Landesgruppenzuchtschauen), live in the house of Ottmar Grünewald (kennel vom Kuckucksland) for a couple of months and visit her friend Reinhardt Meyer, wherever he decides who will be amongst the next champions.
Watch out for Whisky Wasserkuppe and Blianka Osterberger Land this year.
Reinhardt Meyer would be the rightfull owner of these dogs, although you will not see this printed anywhere.
The dogs will be registered under the names of Harald Stock and Helmut Wenderoth, and the judge-to-be Wolfgang Meinen will be the handler!
It's all a big hoax, and it's all about the money. Don't you even think of bringing your dogs to this event.
The places have been assigned long before the show!
Tell me more about the French show!
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