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by autobahn on 23 March 2011 - 20:03
I came across this video on YouTube. Can anyone tell me the point of the repeated stick hits? www.youtube.com/user/umpa82#p/u/5/-meH9mcHHOU
by Nans gsd on 23 March 2011 - 21:03
Someone not knowing what the fuck they are doing?
by autobahn on 23 March 2011 - 21:03
The dog was hit pretty hard at least 10 times!
by RLHAR on 23 March 2011 - 21:03
Just to play devil's advocate...
If the dog genuinely is being trained as a PPD then I doubt a live bite perp is going to stop at two light taps on his sides.
A PPD would be expected to stay in the fight, no matter what, until he was called off by his handler.
Also a dog with genuine fight, is going to escalate the more stick laid on him. The fact that he released quickly and cleanly when his handler gave the command when he probably would have liked nothing better than to get the helper on the ground and really give him a fight, is probably meant to show that the dog can do his job, yet still be under handler control no matter how heated the fight gets.
If the dog genuinely is being trained as a PPD then I doubt a live bite perp is going to stop at two light taps on his sides.
A PPD would be expected to stay in the fight, no matter what, until he was called off by his handler.
Also a dog with genuine fight, is going to escalate the more stick laid on him. The fact that he released quickly and cleanly when his handler gave the command when he probably would have liked nothing better than to get the helper on the ground and really give him a fight, is probably meant to show that the dog can do his job, yet still be under handler control no matter how heated the fight gets.
by isachev on 24 March 2011 - 00:03
Looked liked a very strong dog. Don't think it hurt him, but I agree, that was a bit much.
by troublelinx on 24 March 2011 - 01:03
I would bet Pau could make better moonshine than he can train a dog
by alboe2009 on 24 March 2011 - 02:03
The "stick" is one of many tools used in/for training purposes. Proper name would be a "Split Bamboo Clatter Stick". It's a form of a "clatter or slagger stick" in training.
One of many techniques or methods used to make intimidating noises and distractions in training.
Like RLHAR stated, the dog in this type of training has to win the fight. Any dog at this level has to know or think that he/she will win, no matter what the obstacle. If the man is 230/240 lbs. and hitting/punching the dog. The dog cannot be phased, can not back down and must do the job. Must win the battle.
One of many techniques or methods used to make intimidating noises and distractions in training.
Like RLHAR stated, the dog in this type of training has to win the fight. Any dog at this level has to know or think that he/she will win, no matter what the obstacle. If the man is 230/240 lbs. and hitting/punching the dog. The dog cannot be phased, can not back down and must do the job. Must win the battle.
by KellyJ on 24 March 2011 - 03:03
Hits from the decoy should absolutely not phase a tough dog....
except to make them bite harder and deeper!
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
by Duderino on 24 March 2011 - 13:03
I think the question should be, "What is the point of this training?" not "What is the point of this video?". First, that is not a split bamboo stick but a "schlage" stick, commonly used for the Schutzhund sport. Years ago a reed stick was used in Schutzhund, but solid, not split. FR uses split bamboo partially for it's noisemaking ability. Properly used, the exercise's greatest effect is the "threat" of the stick and not necessarily the physical impact. Neither SchH or FR condone the striking straight down on the back of the dog but rather blows along the sides. In the case of the video, it's just poor training and no the dog is not really that strong, overweight yes, but strong, not so much. Note the bite at the handle end of the sleeve and the less than full grip. To me the video speaks of inexperience and poor use of the stick.
by SportySchGuy on 24 March 2011 - 14:03
Ha ha Duderino. Obviously you aren't going to know what a strong dog is until one bites you in the ass! Hopefully sooner than later. :)
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