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by ecs on 23 December 2010 - 19:12

How many hours per week does a workingline owner/handler have to work with his dog inorder to make him competitive? ecs

by contimali on 23 December 2010 - 19:12

How many hours per week does an overweight blob need to work out in order to make him competitive? How many hours does an athlete need to work out in order to make him competitive?

Regards,
contimali

KYLE

by KYLE on 23 December 2010 - 20:12

Way too many variables to give an exact length of time.  Its quality of training over quantity.  There are kennel training business out there that say they can put a BH thru sch 3 on a dog in 6 months. BH and sch1 cost 5k US dollars, sch2 2k US dollars, sch 3 2k US dollars.  Now once you get this dog back, can you enter him in a trial and get passing scores?  Who knows, but I would not mind finding out.

Kyle

by Bob McKown on 23 December 2010 - 20:12

Conti:

I quote:

"How many hours per week does an overweight blob need to work out in order to make him competitive?"

Hey!! I resemble that remark!!

by contimali on 23 December 2010 - 21:12

Umm, I'll put a BH on any dog in 1 month time for 5k! It may not be pretty though but will get it done!

by Jeff Oehlsen on 24 December 2010 - 22:12

 Quote: How many hours per week does a workingline owner/handler have to work with his dog inorder to make him competitive? 

At what stage ? I see you kinda got run off here. LOL

If I had someone real close to me, I would work my dog every other day, and as far as how long, that would depend on a lot of factors other than just the work. What if it is over 100 degrees ? : )

by ecs on 24 December 2010 - 23:12

I knew I was going to get beat over the head if I posted a question on this pdb so I thought I would make it as s;imple as possible.  Unforturnately one cannot post a simple question without many making exceptions to it.  I was only asking a general question.  I really did not want to get as technical as the question evidently was.  All I really want to know is approximately how long does a working line person work with their dog in order to make a quality passing grade.  (You be the judge of "quality).   ecs

by ecs on 24 December 2010 - 23:12

I knew I was going to get beat over the head if I posted a question on this pdb so I thought I would make it as s;imple as possible.  Unforturnately one cannot post a simple question without many making exceptions to it.  I was only asking a general question.  I really did not want to get as technical as the question evidently was.  All I really want to know is approximately how long does a working line person work with their dog in order to make a quality passing grade.  (You be the judge of "quality).   ecs

by Jeff Oehlsen on 24 December 2010 - 23:12

 I think if a person was in an established club, it is reasonable to expect a Sch 3 by 4 years of age.

How many hours at the club a week, and how much work is done at home I would think is too variable to guess accurately. Maybe three times a week tracking and that like everything else is shorter when the pup is younger. OB I would hope every day, and bite work at the club three times a week. There are a lot of clubs that do twice a week, some do three, if you are lucky, maybe you find a small really intense club maybe every other day, but good luck with that. : )

Guppyfry

by Guppyfry on 25 December 2010 - 00:12

 As a general time-line for a club-level dog, most people have two or three official club training days. They may meet in the evening for three or four hours of training, and for one or two days on the weekends and train all day. Now with the club, your dog probably only gets worked one hour or two or so total in addition to tracking. For example, you might get in one or two 15 to 30 minutes obedience sessions, depending on the age and level of training of your dog, and one or two 10 or 15 minutes protection sessions.

Most people would work at home a bit everyday or every other day on certain elements. With a young dog you incorporate eye-contact basic position with distractions on a daily basis, then spend a few minutes working with distractions, long down, etc. My big focus on my post BH pre-SchH1 dog right now is a calm dumbell hold and a close front. I set him up in play and in different venues to bring me stuff and present it calmly and not release it until I tell him to.  Hard to tally up hours spent training when a lot of the training people do is this type of every-day stuff. 

Some people will tell you that they spend two hours a day everyday training, others will train an hour or so every few days, others just might attend club training and incorporate little stuff here and there. 

So, again in VERY GENERAL terms, most newbies will take about two years to start a puppy and get it to BH level, then pup can be ready for SchH1 six months to a year after that. I know a very competitve world level trainer that gets BH, SchH1, 2, 3, bam, bam, bam, on his dogs as soon as the dog is old enough, focus in on National and World level competition. But he has a dog-equipment related business, and is free to work with his dogs on a daily basis. 

Where I live, the winters are long and severe, training is now once a week in an indoor facility, we often only work on obedience as our helper is not always available, and no tracking due to cold and snow. So availability of grounds, venues, and helpers is also a big variable in how often we can train, and how long it takes to get trial ready.  





 


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