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by obamabarrack88 on 13 September 2010 - 00:09
Hi,
1) If the dog moves from prey into defense, will the grip on the sleeve change?
2) Will the Grip be from only front canines?
3) What about dogs which change from Prey -> Defense -> Prey Without changing the grip on the sleeve?
What would you call about the drives in the dogs of such nature?
Thanks
1) If the dog moves from prey into defense, will the grip on the sleeve change?
2) Will the Grip be from only front canines?
3) What about dogs which change from Prey -> Defense -> Prey Without changing the grip on the sleeve?
What would you call about the drives in the dogs of such nature?
Thanks
by leeshideaway on 13 September 2010 - 03:09
Do you think a wolf would bite less hard trying to kill an animal more than twice its size than it would defending itself?
It depends on the dog. (and training)
It depends on the dog. (and training)
by PowerHaus on 13 September 2010 - 03:09
My last dog had always been worked in prey.....my decoy wanted to improve his intensity and grip and we worked him in defense.......the agression, intensity and grip all improved greatly!
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
by Slamdunc on 16 September 2010 - 02:09
It really depends on the dog. Many dogs will not regrip in defense, if it is full it stays full, 3/4 or shallow stays that way while pressured on the bite in defense. In prey dogs will regrip. Typically, prey bites are fuller and calmer for most dogs. Dogs that have genetically excellent grips and a balanced temperament will bite full and hard regardless. My male for example has genetically excellent grips and a very strong temperament. His grips are always full, hard and crushing, actually harder in defense but always full. His "real" street bites have been full, hard and crushing as well. His hardest bite was on a suspect that kicked him in the face after fighting with two Officers. That bite was extremely full, all the way to the back of his mouth and crushing. The fight was taken out of the guy very quickly, similar to being tased.
If the dog moves from prey into defense, will the grip on the sleeve change?
It can, but that is the handlers and decoys job to recognize this and adjust to get the full grip again. The handler has an equal role in protection training just as the decoy does. The grip is a way to look directly into the dog's mind and soul. If the grip changes it is because the dog feels the pressure and is becoming uncomfortable with the situation. If the grip goes from full to less, you need to give the dog the chance to regrip and win. If more pressure is applied and the grip becomes worse than the decoy slips the sleeve or you out the dog there is a problem with the training.
FWIW,
Jim
If the dog moves from prey into defense, will the grip on the sleeve change?
It can, but that is the handlers and decoys job to recognize this and adjust to get the full grip again. The handler has an equal role in protection training just as the decoy does. The grip is a way to look directly into the dog's mind and soul. If the grip changes it is because the dog feels the pressure and is becoming uncomfortable with the situation. If the grip goes from full to less, you need to give the dog the chance to regrip and win. If more pressure is applied and the grip becomes worse than the decoy slips the sleeve or you out the dog there is a problem with the training.
FWIW,
Jim
by ALPHAPUP on 18 September 2010 - 13:09
DEPENDS on a multitude of variables .. the age of the dog , the experiences of the dog [ ie -going for one material to another in a young dog may lessen the bite grip ] , the temperament of the dog [ e.g is it sharp , sound , unsound] , how it was taught and what was taught, the context and presentation of the helper. [ e.g there are differentials in perceived / presented threats and defense behavior]. more variables too . so .. you can have a weak dog when pressured let up on bite grip for a number of reason but then a different weak dog under threat actually bite harder .. you disagree?? ... then did you ever hear of the infamous , FEAR BITER ? so .. again a multitude of variables determine the chosen behavioral response ..
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