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by geordiegaviino on 01 August 2010 - 10:08

I've been in touch with a few GSD breeders in the north east area. Some have stood out more than others. I did have my heart set on one breeder but once i started asking health test questions she got a bit bitchy and stated "Health tests are a pile of sh**" So sadly she was written off my list.

I dont want to list the kennels i have been intouch with cause i have picked up easiliy that someone will make allegations against that kennel for no reason but i am going to ask you all if you can recommend a kennel. .

At this moment in time i dont have a look am strictly looking for a health and temperment. The looks will come second. I do like the long coats and all range of colours but i would prefer a healthy pup than a good looking dog any day!

by Peggy on 01 August 2010 - 11:08

Are you really looking for a breeder or hoping to start another thread where breeders can be slated.I have just looked at some of your replies on other posts and you have an awful lot to say.
I would advise if you want to know who the disreputable breeders are then you ask that it is done privately through PM and not on an open forum, dont know about everyone else on here but i for one have had enough of listening to people bash on about other breeders this week

by noddi on 01 August 2010 - 11:08

Peggy,so have i.Gaz,all i can suggest is that yu either ring up the kc for a list of Accredited breeders in that area,but you,re best bet is to ask them for the no.of Shelia Rankin who is the secretary of the gsd breed council.she will be able to supply yu with names and ph.nos.of breeders in your area who DO  THE RELEVANT HEALTH TESTS.will be mostly show line kennels and yes yu will be more than likely able to get a long coat but i doubt if a non standard colour would crop up,as yu know they would only crop up in these litters very very occasionally.there are quite a few i would recommend in the north east.go and visit loads of litters and ask loads of questions and be prepared to be given a grilling.good luck with your search and let us know when yu get your pup and piccies please.Carole S.

Abby Normal

by Abby Normal on 01 August 2010 - 13:08

I would suggest that you google breeders in the area you are looking at, and look at their websites. If they list the dogs results of dogs health tests and pedigree, it's a good start. It will also tell you whether or not they produce the type of dog (look)that you are looking for. You can double check their health results on the KC website to be doubly sure. If it were me, I would also be looking for elbows having been tested too, although not all breeders are doing this yet. But that is my personal choice.

THEN you can to contact any you are interested in and ask lots of questions about health testing, temperament etc. As Carole says, you should then ask if you can visit and see the dogs that they have - and you can get a feel for the temperament and character. Again, as Carole says, expect a grilling - it is a two way thing.

If you don't understand the pedigree of a dog you really like, ask someone like Chris Hazell or Wildmoor to look at it for you. That is real belt and braces approach.

Any responses like the one you have already had is the run a mile signal!

by geordiegaviino on 01 August 2010 - 13:08

Oh am sorry if complaining about those who slate down breeders is a bad thing.....

I am also sorry if i cant have any personal views on anything on this site

"Are you really looking for a breeder or hoping to start another thread where breeders can be slated.I have just looked at some of your replies on other posts and you have an awful lot to say" - Where have i once slated someone? Yes i have had my comments like "This breed is fallen apart cause of the way breeders bicker amongst each other" cause i dont agree with slating. I did make a post on GSDUK similar to this where i posted sites of certain breeders and they didnt all get nice comments. I wouldnt of said they got slated but they deffintly didnt get a nice "dont go down that root" approach. If i did that on this site, the poor breeders would of been dragged through the mud.

Sorry Peggy if i wanted to be a responsable buyer and go by recomendations instead of using my own "small" experience with the breed.

I have went through the KC and looked up many breeders within my area and contacted them. Some i liked and some i deffintly plan to stay from. The accreidited breeder scheme didnt bring out any outstanding breeders if am honest. Maybe one or two max. Out of all the breeders i contacted only a handfull have stood out for me and i'll be honest i was hoping someone would mention one of them as a recomendation so i could be sure i was looking down the right path.


Clearly this site isnt where i should be asking SERIOUS questions as your all looking to get the old claws out.
Even when someone is hinting that they would like the comments on breeders to be civil, somone has to manipulate that into the idea am saying "ok who is bad and who is good"


 


Abby Normal

by Abby Normal on 01 August 2010 - 13:08

@ Georgedavino

I don't think anyone can take the risk of recommending a breeder. If you subsequently encountered a problem, there is the risk that you would blame whoever recommended them, or accuse someone of having a personal interest in making a recommendation.

It is up to you to do the 'leg-work' with hopefully, some useful tips as to what to look for.

by geordiegaviino on 01 August 2010 - 13:08

by Abby Normal on 01 August 2010 - 13:08 Abby Normal

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@ Georgedavino

I don't think anyone can take the risk of recommending a breeder. If you subsequently encountered a problem, there is the risk that you would blame whoever recommended them, or accuse someone of having a personal interest in making a recommendation.

It is up to you to do the 'leg-work' with hopefully, some useful tips as to what to look for.

How could someone who just recomended a breeder be accused of anything? I mean they were just recomending, it would be up to me to then ask the important questions and for me to personally decided to buy from a breeder but i see where your coming from.

 I think this post may be useless to me.So just let it die and let someone elses post take over. I dont know how to delete it sadly but thanks for all the comments guys even the one which accused me of being nothing more than a stirrer and a liar....

But if you want to pm me with a recommendation, i'll be willing to take a look.



by Penny on 01 August 2010 - 13:08

Hi Georgidavino.

I can tell you for certain that there are excellent breeders in the North East, I could name a good handful that I would buy a puppy from with no qualms.   However, it is so easy to find them too if you are switched on, which it seems you are.

I.   Location  -  you have decided which location you are looking in.
2.  Ask regarding Health Checks - also see the paperwork to prove it.
3.  Let them know what you are looking for and what type of home you are offerring.
4.  Ask for a visit to them, and be prepared to be asked all sorts of questions if the
     breeder isnt desperate to sell
5.  Ask why they bred the litter - do they show, work their dogs, both or just sit and
     sell puppies - steer clear of the latter.
6.  Goes without saying, see mum.

When people come to me for a puppy, its a two way gesture - they are not automatically going to get a puppy until we have met, and  I like what they are also offering my puppy, and I find that they are prepared to keep in touch if necessary and to give their vet a letter from me which gives the vet the overall right to contact me in the future if he feels that the puppy has any hereditory fauts.   This for me is the biggy - its stops the other thread on this board ever happening where a breeder is trying to get information from a vet regarding a puppy bought.

I dont think thats too hard, and I dont think that I have told you anything that you perhaps didnt alaredy know.  I wouldnt name on here breeders that I thought were excellent, because the simple reason is that there might be others that I dont know, that are excellent, and I would be missing them out.    However, if you have anyone in mind, I will give you my honest opinion, or find some-one that can, if you pm me

Mo.



Felloffher

by Felloffher on 01 August 2010 - 14:08

Abby Normal said;

" I don't think anyone can take the risk of recommending a breeder".

What kind of horse crap is this? Are you telling me that none of you have a breeder you know who produces good GSD's worth recommending? .  Maybe the reason you won't recommend a breeder because of all the health problems associated with your dysplastic, roach backed abombanation's.

To the OP, I'm sorry that I can't point you in the right direction. However, if you were looking for a solid dog in North America, I would be more than happy to recommend a couple of good kennels. The first thing I would do is burn KC list, then start doing some google searches.


Good luck, I hope everything works out for you.

by Penny on 01 August 2010 - 17:08

fellofher says

What kind of horse crap is this? Are you telling me that none of you have a breeder you know who produces good GSD's worth recommending? . 
then goes on to follow with
Maybe the reason you won't recommend a breeder because of all the health problems associated with your dysplastic, roach backed abombanation's.

No  -  (Abby is saying without too much brainpower to work it out), that some people dont want their kennel mentioned on here due to people coming on with unwarranted vicious comments that are unnecessary.

There are a lot of people that dont use this forum because of the likes of your comments as above - very aggressive, pointed and unpleasant added to a thread that wasnt particularly bad before your addition..    Mo.





 


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