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We have a female, when she was in her 7th day of season we took her to the vet to have a progesterone test. We had to got back 3 days later and the vet said by her test she would be ready in the next 24 hours. We took her to the stud and she just didnt wanna know even tho the stud was raring to go.WE SHE DID EVERYTHING IN HER POWER NOT TO BE MATED,we took her the following 3 days and she wouldnt allow it to happen. We did get the stud dog to enter her briefly, but she did a kind of crocodile death roll to stop him so the stud owner refused to let his dog near her. thats it basically, is there anything we can do to make it easier to mate her. Other than extreme things, the stud owner recommended so travel sickness tablets for next time    thanks

How old is she? Had she ever met this male before? Was she flagging and presenting when she was sniffed? Has she ever gotten to have play time with a male? Did you let them flirt with each other first--like through a fence and then on leash? Was she aggressive? Afraid? Fine until he got on her?

 Assuming that the progesterone tests were correct (and they probably were if the male was so keen), I agree with Blackthorn, letting the female ran around and play with the male first often leads to a complete change of attitude on her part even if she seems very aggressive at first.  My vet has also told me that with some very difficult females he has used a muscle relaxant, this calms her down and she can be held more easily during mating, as she is more relaxed it is easier for the male to penetrate, I do not know exactly what drug this would be but you could ask your vet about this?

hello thanks for the replies, she is 3yrs old, she is a maiden bitch. No she never met the male before, but she was flagging at the jack russel down the road who she sees every day when we take her walking. the owner of the stud dog didn't seem to think they needed time to flirt, which i thought would have to take place. But he did say next time to bring her up and he will house  her at his for a few days for her to get used to the stud dog  

I'm replying "in the dark here" as I don't know the natures of the dogs concerned.  So, I shall restrict my remarks to the bloodtest.

IF the test was PREMATE (or something similar that attempts to measure the level of progesterone by colour-matching to a chart)) then you should be aware that it is not a predictive test.  It is a "there and then" result for the female.  Either the test shows she HAS ovulated OR SHE HAS NOT.  A series of tests (maybe three or four with a day in between each) starting at around Day 9 need to be done so that the vet can build up a picture for that particular female.  The lead-in time to ovulation can vary enormously from female to female and even in the same female at different seasons which is why it is impossible for a vet to say "she'll be ready in 24 hours".  This is a common mistake that frequently leads to disappointment on the part of the owner of the female.

Once the vet says she's ovulated (after seeing the desired change in colour in the tests) you then have 48 hours or thereabouts to get the female to the male.  The eggs are undergoing the necessary 'maturing' at this time and the sperm from the dog will last for a few days at least.

Hope this helps. 

My bitch and the male I bred her to last year, were both maidens. My female was ready, but being her first time was a little unsure of things. They did not tie the first time we tried. The studs owner contacted a friend of hers who is a very successful breeder and walked her through how we should procede. It sounds like the male is expierienced and will already know what to do. I held my female and would not let her move, upon penitration she yelped, they tied. She will be a little scared the first time and not know what is happening. I held her for twenty minutes untill the tie was broken. I now have to make sure she doesnt stand for the intact neighborhood males (gotta love those irresponsible owners of mutts) since she now knows what to do. (But they are a good test for knowing when she is in a standing heat).

I learned how to properly restrain a dog when I worked in vet offices. That is how I held my female. In the position is was kneeling, my face was very close to both dogs faces. I held my female so she could not try to bite the male. I trusted the male as he knows me and is very friendly with people.(And was a bit preoccupied with what he was trying to accomplish).

I would be reluctant to leave my female with the stud owner. I would not want her to be accidently traumatized by the breeding. If you have an enclosed area where the stud is on a leash and let your female move about, so she can come to him, that might be better. Then hold her still for him.  Good Luck