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by Marilyn Rogers on 16 July 2010 - 21:07

Please read below.

Myracle

by Myracle on 16 July 2010 - 21:07

Umm...

Did you buy the puppy on the forum, or did you... you know, communicate with the breeder via email or phone?  That might be a more effective, and classy, method of contacting him.

by Penny on 16 July 2010 - 22:07

  Many vets in the UK unfortunately Xray and discuss hip dysplasia without having the full knowledge of the real condition.   We have all had instances of vets saying bad hips and scores coming back relatively low.
Has your dog got any symptoms.   I also agree with the above post that you should contact your breeder personally and privately, this forum isnt the place to put your tele No on for contact.

Mo.

dogshome9

by dogshome9 on 17 July 2010 - 00:07

Did you have your puppies x-rays evaluated by a specialst or is that just your vets say-so. ?

I once had a bitch x-rayed for scoring and the vet said don't bother sending them for evaluation as they would fail - she has hip dysplasia HE SAID.

Took her to another vet who did better x-rays and she passed with a total score of 6.

There are better ways of dealing with this than a pubic forum AND it takes a dog and a bitch to make puppies.
I personally do not own a stud dog and for all the  *#***() that stud owners have to deal with I don't think I would want to.


by noddi on 17 July 2010 - 06:07

i too have had a vet many years ago,who advised not to send in a males x ray as in his opinion the score would be high....5/3.some years later this same vet told my hubby on collection of a bitch after x rays taken.Would highly reccomend sending plates to BVA as excellent hips.......8/8.????i personally wouldnt take wot any vet said about his readings of the plates,altho.some vets can be reasonably accurate.have the puppy done after his 1st b,day and wait for results and i wouldnt be too hasty at accusing the breeder/stud owner.Mother nature will throw differing hip status to her puppies especially if its a large litter.Did yu check out the scores throughout both pedigrees.i personally think that a stud dog owner SHOULD BE TOLD OF HIP DYPLASIA IN HIS DOGS PROGENY,but not blaimed for it unless it happening a lot.as was said in a previous post there are 2 animals in a mating.Unfortunately its one of the downfalls in buying a pup for the showring,as is missing teeth etc.Carole S.

AmbiiGSD

by AmbiiGSD on 17 July 2010 - 08:07

Have you contacted the breeder as in the owner of the bitch?  Why just target the sire?

by Jantie on 17 July 2010 - 09:07

Marilyn,
please do inform me about your problems.
Greetz!
Jantie

P.S.: Every buyer is entitled to receive a perfectly healthy dog from the (club registered) GSD-breeder, no matter what.
Any disease is the responsabilty of the club and the breeder, not the customer's.
Some of the wannabees here are trying to flood you with this and that, only to wave responsabilities and shove the problem into the buyer's shoes!
They will make "still admissible hips" out of HD4's and HD5's, tell you that "a little bit of HD has never hurt anyone", manipulate on ears and tails to make Sieger, bribe the judges and threaten people, etc.
Confront this mob!
And do it publicly! Right in the open!
Breeders tend to HIDE the magnitude of the problems, and will avoid any kind of communication.
Remember, within 24 hours, thanks to Pedigreedatabase, I found out who owned the littermate of my crippled dog.
No need to tell you he ALSO was crippled badly from Canine Hip Dysplasia.

Puppy has confirmed HD?
MUST BE RETURNED TO THE BREEDER in exchange for a completely healthy pup!

by Aileen Ann Mathieson on 17 July 2010 - 12:07

Marilyn,
 

Unless a dog/bitch has an X-Rayed Hip Score of 0:0 showing no hips dysplasia, virtually all GSDs will have a degree of hip degeneration hence scores rising upwards.  Has your puppy been constantly lame and unable to be a fit for purpose puppy?  Is this why you went to your Vet - did your Vet x-ray him? 

As said already, if you are going to come on to this Forum you really need to clarify the whole story if you want help from genuine GSD people.  Puppies have 2 parents - was the mother hip scored and what was her score? 

You need to talk to the breeder of your puppy and discuss this situation and provide proof (x-ray proof)/Vet's letter quantifying the problems with this puppy so this breeder can deal with this properly.  Should it be that this is correct then the breeder needs to contact the Stud Dog Owner and discuss this problem with your puppy and what they intend to do about it.

There are correct ways of dealing with this and of course there are the Forums where animals are crucified by others without having the proof.  If you have been told to come on here and slate the dog only then this is wrong, and if you are to come on Open Forums then tell the whole story. 

Vets should never guess on scores, however they can advise if they see damage to the hips (all areas of the hip) - for example arthritis damage in a young animal of this age.  Your puppy should be X-rayed at 1 year old and the plates sent to the BVA for scoring.

If your puppy is crippled with disease the this is not good - but again 2 animals are involved - you are need to know if any other puppies are suffering like this.

Ask your breeder all these questions and their intentions on dealing with this.

Sorry to hear you are having this problem with your puppy, it is very sad.

Aileen  


by Jeff Oehlsen on 17 July 2010 - 13:07

 So, somehow the breeder was supposed to magically ( with the help of xrays ) banish all chances of hip problems right ? I have bred OFA excellent to excellent and had 1 cripple and a couple milds.

THis is just how it happens. I do not know anyone that wants to see a pup with HD, but you can do all the tests in the world, it doesn't mean shit. HD can still happen. I feel very bad for you, and your dog. But you have to understand that all the hip ratings in the world don't mean shit. HD still happens. 

And before all the folks get on here and talk about how great ratings are, all it does is tell you THAT DOG, and THAT DOG only is HD - or +. Doesn't mean shit as how the pups are gonna turn out.

by trac123 on 17 July 2010 - 14:07

Contact the breeder before anyone else. That is polite and correct thing to do. Has your puppy really got bad H D? So many vets cannot diagnose correctly - or even position the hips correctly.
Is your dog lame? There are many causes - some could be your fault. Over exercise, overfeeding, excessive calcium intake etc.  Not all problems are genetic. Even the Guide Dogs for the Blind (and they raise more pups of breeds prone to H D  than most organisation) tell their puppy walkers 'DO NOT GIVE CALCIUM SUPPLEMENTS.
But having said all that the condition itself is not 100% genetic and I dont think any dog is 100% free of HD anyway and this forum is not the place to try to 'slate' a stud dog.
Research more, have your dog rex-rayed at 12 months, plates submitted and then see.





 


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