Wanted: Solid Black Female - Page 1

Hello,

My husband and I are looking for a solid black female with full breeding rights.  We are looking into starting up a kennel and I want to make sure we do it RIGHT (OFA Good hips,elbows, temperment etc).  I've talked with another established GSD breeder and she says it's impossible for me to get a female with full breeding rights with out jumping through flaming hoops, let alone a solid black.  Am I crazy?  Can any of you breeders out there advise?? 

What lines, titles?
Solid black female is not enough for anybody to know what you want.

Starting a kennel is not buyng a dog and breeding it. It is knowing the bloodlines, working your bitch so you know what you have and making sure you know how to pick the right stud.

Geez it is taking me to 3 years to get my bich ready (last one passed, had to start over).

Untill you know the breed dont breed it. my opinion.
But I do wish you good luck. You can buy anything when you are willing to pay..

Pack

Hello,

I am finding out quickly becoming a breeder intails many things. 

Honestly I'm a complete novice at this.  I REFUSE to be classifed as a "back yard breeder."  I currently have one GSD, a male who has beed neutered.   We were going to try and use him for breeding, but he has an undershot jaw and his shoulders are a bit off.  Definitely didn't make the cut, but I couldn't ask for a better companion!  

I want a good (preferably working) line female that has breeding potential (good hips, elbows, teeth, drive,  etc).  I know getting a puppy is a crap shoot, they can have all the potential in the world, and still have bad hips, elbows etc...She'd only be bred if her hips are confirmed and she has been titled.   Although, I'm not looking exclusively for a puppy, because as I said before, it's a crap shoot and I get attached to my critters so quickly it'd be hard to give her up.  I'd end up with a house full of GSD's.  I have lots of room, but my husband would kill me if we got above 3 full size GSD's
(I could probably get away with 4 if I bugged him long enough!!  )  

Best thing to do if you care about doing right by the breed, and producing the very best quality puppies - is to spend the money and get a Schutzhund titled, hip rated, KKl female, imported or not - start by looking at the classifieds here on this site, contact people selling, and do your research before buying.

molly
Eichenluft
http://workinggermanshepherd.com

Is your male from working lines??  I ask because you should understand what it is to live with a working dog before thinking that you want to breed.  They're not your average  couch potatoe and require a LOT of attention, training and exercise to be proper members of a household and/or community.  I say that as an owner of GSD's for 30+ years, but Ike is my 1st working line dog. He's awesome!!  He's also a handful... LOL.  He needs a couple of hours of intense exercise to be relaxed for the evening, and training to respect house rules etc... and I was an obedience instructor for 20 years. 

It's the old axium... be certain that you REALLY want what you want...  If you love it, then Molly's advice is excellent.  You could also develop a relationship with someone who IS a breeder already, and learn from them the pedigrees and bloodlines which suit your needs and taste.  you might also join other GSD sites dedicated to working lines.  www.working-dog.eu/index.php shows the breedings being done (primarily in Europe) and are great sources of pictures and pedigrees.  You might also search Youtube for videos of various dogs doing Schutzhund (in all phases) as well as conformation shows.  Until you see the dogs in the  pedigrees in picture and in motion you can't get a good idea of what they are.

Good luck
Jill

Why not get a dog or two for training and trialing first?  Many people go through several dogs and at least as many years before they find the right foundation bitch.  I'm looking for a working line puppy but to be honest, I'd never consider a breeder that was breeding dogs but had no experience training and titling and actually working with the bloodlines, and I'm not even that competitive.  You say you don't want to be a backyard breeder but to not be that you have to really know the bloodlines behind the dog and how they produce in which combinations, otherwise you'd just be another one of hundreds of other breeders that buys decent dogs and breeds them with good intentions but no real direction.   I'm speaking more from the position of being a potential buyer.