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by vonissk on 03 May 2010 - 21:05
Can someone please explain to me exactly what the LGA is? Thanks in advance.................
by Silbersee on 04 May 2010 - 02:05
Landesgruppenausscheidungspruefung - LGA.
Every region in Germany holds one, and there are 19 regions in Germany. It determines who will be admitted to go to the BSP. In order to participate in the LGA, the handler-dog team has to qualify for it with a set amount of scores. I think it is in general 275 und up and it has to be done at least two, sometimes three times in a regular trial. The reason it is vage is because every region has the right to set its on rules. The SV only regulates that all the LGAs have to take place in the month of August and that the participants for the BSP have to be reported at least 3 weeks prior to the BSP.
If anybody reads German or wishes to use an online translator, here are the regulations that spell it all out: www.schaeferhund.de/site/typo3conf/ext/nf_downloads/pi1/passdownload.php
The LGAs are very important events in Germany, not so important for foreigners as they are "just" regional qualifyers to select for the BSP. Only teams who reside in Germany are allowed to participate.
Every region in Germany holds one, and there are 19 regions in Germany. It determines who will be admitted to go to the BSP. In order to participate in the LGA, the handler-dog team has to qualify for it with a set amount of scores. I think it is in general 275 und up and it has to be done at least two, sometimes three times in a regular trial. The reason it is vage is because every region has the right to set its on rules. The SV only regulates that all the LGAs have to take place in the month of August and that the participants for the BSP have to be reported at least 3 weeks prior to the BSP.
If anybody reads German or wishes to use an online translator, here are the regulations that spell it all out: www.schaeferhund.de/site/typo3conf/ext/nf_downloads/pi1/passdownload.php
The LGAs are very important events in Germany, not so important for foreigners as they are "just" regional qualifyers to select for the BSP. Only teams who reside in Germany are allowed to participate.
by CrashKerry on 04 May 2010 - 02:05
Just curious, do you have to attend the LGA for the region you live in, or can you attend any of them?
by Silbersee on 04 May 2010 - 13:05
That too difers,
If you are a SV member without a local club affiliation, your residence determines which LGA you would have to attend (the region you reside in) - see paragraph 1, section 3. (SV regulations)
If you are a member of a club in a different region than your residence, you would represent your club and compete in the region your club is located in - see paragraph 1, section 4. (SV regulations)
If you are a member of two or more clubs in different regions, the region of your residence is the one you have to start for - see paragraph 1, section 5. (SV regulations)
If you are a member of two or more clubs in the same region, you need to pick the club you will represent - see paragraph 1, section 6. (SV regulations)
Another important rule: Individual members cannot just enter in the LGAs. The clubs have to enter them. That is the reason club affiliations are an important issue. A SV member without a membership in a club would need to contact the club next to his or her residence and this club can but does not have to or is not obligated to nominate that person.
Further, it is up to the regions who they send to the BSP as long as the dog-handler team received an overall SG score or better and TSB pronounced. Sure, usually the placements in order are picked but on rare occasions, a member might have not been in good standing and he or she was not permitted by the region's board of directors to represent them in the BSP.
The only example I know for that was Helmut Raiser in 2007. He won the LGA of Niedersachsen and they refused to send him to the BSP because he had just started his new organization RSV-2000.
If you are a SV member without a local club affiliation, your residence determines which LGA you would have to attend (the region you reside in) - see paragraph 1, section 3. (SV regulations)
If you are a member of a club in a different region than your residence, you would represent your club and compete in the region your club is located in - see paragraph 1, section 4. (SV regulations)
If you are a member of two or more clubs in different regions, the region of your residence is the one you have to start for - see paragraph 1, section 5. (SV regulations)
If you are a member of two or more clubs in the same region, you need to pick the club you will represent - see paragraph 1, section 6. (SV regulations)
Another important rule: Individual members cannot just enter in the LGAs. The clubs have to enter them. That is the reason club affiliations are an important issue. A SV member without a membership in a club would need to contact the club next to his or her residence and this club can but does not have to or is not obligated to nominate that person.
Further, it is up to the regions who they send to the BSP as long as the dog-handler team received an overall SG score or better and TSB pronounced. Sure, usually the placements in order are picked but on rare occasions, a member might have not been in good standing and he or she was not permitted by the region's board of directors to represent them in the BSP.
The only example I know for that was Helmut Raiser in 2007. He won the LGA of Niedersachsen and they refused to send him to the BSP because he had just started his new organization RSV-2000.
by vonissk on 04 May 2010 - 15:05
Thanks Chris for the great explanation....................
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