Flippant Comments - Page 1

Firstly  we don't profess to know Carol or her dog very well, but for her, unfortunately caught up in the controversy that surrounds our breed at present, having gained the title of BOB at Crufts and then to have the shine taken completely away by  flippant comments must be soul destroying.
This brings us to other comments made on these pages by you missbeeb, who in our opinion have put yourself firmly in the same slot as the Clare Balding's of the world, by passing rude and judgemental comments concerning Animals and people of which you know nothing about.
I mean at the end of the day MISSBOOB sorry missbeeb, you couldn't even name the bitch that won CC and BOB under Gary Gray at WELKS 2008.so how can you have the knowledge to comment.
To put the records straight her name is Champion Fayrelander Polly Flinders, who incidentally went on to win a further 3 CC's at the next three shows, two more best of breeds, and Group 2 at Three Counties, Making  her Dog World/Pedigree Masterfoods Overall Top GSD 2008 .The very nice  Ch Mirrwood Sciffo at Reyanheath shared the limelight with her on three of these occasions, handled by My husband to one of his tickets. 
We will certainly be entering Crufts next year, because, Win or loose We trust that Gary will put up the Best dog on the day,
We might even see you there, if your ready for an honest days judging, or is it as we suspect you join the ranks of the other sore losers.
By the way sorry to disappoint you but She is also three quarters Top quality German Breeding!

I'm neither disappointed nor interested, frankly!  I thought his judging was appalling.  I am not a sore loser, indeed, I was too wise to enter.  

I'm afraid I don't have the same platform as Clare Balding, but I am entitled to my opinion... and it stands.    I didn't know the name of your bitch (why would I?) but my eyes were functioning very well.

It really wasn't my intention to offend you... so for that, I apologise unreservedly.

My we expect to see you at Regional events in the future, to show under specialist judges?

My guess is that would be a resounding NO Missbeeb! Sad but true.
Regards
Sue b

hi Carol and Kevin.now for the onslaught.MISBEEB AND SUE.these people DO HAVE ANIMALS THAT DO CONFORM TO THE STANDARD.Idont think that we should be slagging the people off who dont show these correct animals in the same way we do.they prefer ,as i do,not to be double handling so blatantly.we prefer a more sedately way of presenting our charges.IMO.its the over the top D.H.that has brought us where we are now.IMO.its the D.H.which makes some of our animals look unsound and have a distorted backline ,to the onlooker.even on the classified ads here on PDB,the backlines on some dogs DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT.if we weren,t in the situ.we,re in now,I WOULD BE EXHIBITING AT CRUFTS NEXT YEAR WITH CHIKI.in slagging off Gary Gray,who i haven,t bee under yet,yu also slagg off his wife,who awarded chiki with her 2nd CC,and mirrwood schifo(who won his class)and ASTANA BONO AT REYANHEATH,who was dog CC and BOB on the day.so in fact yu are slagging off all the winners of the day.Gary in my opinion will judge as he see fit on the day,he will put up dogs he considers to be sound whether they be to his liking or not.i think he did state this before his critiques in the b/c mag.when he judged 3 countries several years ago.come on now ,us germanics and middle of the roaders should be sticking together not fighting.maybe some of the middle of the road animals are not to our liking but they are using german type males to their females.we need their support too,in this fight with the kc.Carole Spelman.

Carole, where have I EVER slagged these people OFF, PLEASE SHOW ME!!!????
Best Regards
Sue

Carole, Please read again my comment above,  Missbeeb had asked if we would be seeing them at Regional Events under SV judges, my guess is that we wouldnt and please note I ended that with the comment, Sad but True.
In other words I thought it sad that the likelihood is that they wouldnt be joining us at our WUSV events for Health & Character Checked animals having obtained a BC Survey Pass.
As you know I dont advocate the mad DH either and my age (57) and spinal condition prevents me from doing many things that I would otherwise like to do (although madly running around the ring DH is not one of them), however I still manage to compete with those that do because I train my animals to seek me out, rather than run around following me, so saying they do not come to our events because we DH is not an excuse. Nor is it an excuse for not attending to put their dogs through a BC Survey or to attend a Regional Event or even the British Sieger Event , if only to obtain an SV Breed Grade (required under WUSV rules in order to gain a Korung as fit for breeding).
So I will reiterate, I find it sad that these people will most likely not be joining us at our Regional events , though will be one of the first to greet with them with Open arms if they do. So please dont say I was slagging these people off or Gary Gray or his wife Gill because I wasnt and havent and as I am sure you know if I had I would have no hesitation in admitting it.
Regard
Sue

noddi wrote:

"maybe some of the middle of the road animals are not to our liking"

well maybe some of the Germanic dogs are not to the liking of those of us who consider ourselves middle of the road, but according to some on here we are the scum of the earth,  Maybe its because we don't like some of them or how they are handled that you won't see us at the 'specialist' events.  Maybe some of us (gasp) even like to handle our own dogs!

Doppelganger... are you a harbinger of bad luck, or a ghostly reflection / double as the name implies?  I've never heard of anyone describe any faction as "the scum of the earth".

Rather than pre-judge, come along to our first one and see for yourself.  If it's not to your liking... fair enough. 
 
 

Firstly Sue and Misbeeb,i apologise for going over the top.but on reading your comment back to Fayrelander i was somewot incensed.when one critises a judges placings without mentioning that a few specimens were of quality,one tends to have ones back put out of joint.if it had been Gill yu were critising i would have been serverly angry as has i,ve said before Chiki has been placed under all sorts of judges,except an out and out alsatian one.she was even placed 2nd under Clare Coxall who i thought would not appreciate her.i think we all need to think a bit more before we gaily put our thoughts and views for all to see.SUE i would think knows my bitch,so know doubt can give a critique on how SHE sees her.Dopplegander,yes i agree i too(who is on the german side)that the shape of some german type dogs ARE NOT TO MY LIKING EITHER.i also prefer the way of handling by the middle of the road type to all this frantic pulling and racing we see some doing at german type shows and believe it or not,some of the judges DONT LIKE IT EITHER.Carole S.ps i do believe that Fayrelander have entered a few of our shows and would suspect that they may have attended a sieger show.maybe they are intending to visit one of our regional shows.just wait and see eh.