WHO HAS HAD MY THREAD REMOVED AND WHY???????? - Page 1

EXCESSIVE LINE BREEDING ON LINES CARRYING GENETIC HEALTH ISSUES

I would like to know why this thread, which is important for the health of our breed in Britain was removed.This was the original post.

I joined here recently after looking at some pedigrees. I put a few comments on dogs and was then barraged with PM’s, some rude, other’s trying to justify their shoddy breeding but there was nothing on here that wasn’t true. After seeing my mums breeding ruined by epilepsy years ago, I see the same lines being used today. Worse still, but doubling up, trebling up, and more, on the same epileptic carrier lines to the epileptic dogs of yesteryear. What’s to be proved by that, resurrecting epilepsy? Because if that’s the aim, it’s the right way to go about it. A rather naive person tells me dwarfism isn’t the problem people are making it out to be and it can be bred away from. With what? More epileptic carrier lines? Ahh… but there’s a dwarfism DNA test available now, so I guess all these responsible breeders will be testing, but I won’t hold my breath. Too many with ostrich syndrome! They tell me Avon Prince was born in the 40’s and his influence would be minimal now unless strongly line bred on. Well, Avon Prince is being bred on in some pedigrees further back. 50 lines going back to Avon Prince equals 50 chances of epilepsy coming through and anyone who breeds 5,5 - 5,5,5 on a dog that has Quadrille et al up close, and Avon Prince further back is asking for big trouble. The more I look into today’s pedigrees and just as an example, what about the breeding animals of today which are saturated with an excess of 50 lines to Palme in the first 10 to 12 generations, how is this improving the breed? Because to my mind that’s insane. Then I read a post saying normal lifespan is between 8-10 years old. What? What’s normal about that? Does nobody remember the days of dogs living to 12, 13, 14 years old? For the likes of us who is thinking about starting again years later, it’s a bigger nightmare that we thought. The breeding in Britain whether continental or not, is absolutely shocking!

My orginal question that no one answered - Are there any lines left that don’t have numerous carrier lines to epilepsy, DM, dwarfism, pancreatic problems etc, etc, etc?

breeding has always been a game of ''pick your poison'' there are no genetically clean lines they all carry something. they guesstimate all dogs have 4-5 genetic flaws which I think is low balling it bigtime  I think its difficult for people to communicate with you because you are seeing things  through this filter of ''how it ruined my mothers lines''  It will be hard to find people who will want to help you and thats crucial if you are going to breed dogs...knowledgable friends and mentors  ! all you can get!!

i deleted it>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My thread on the preference of different types and styles people use has also been removed?  Who knows why it certainly was not offensive to anyone.  Some of these ridiculous threads that have nothing to do with dogs get many posts and stay on forever, but if a beginner ask for advice it gets removed!  Go figure!

Got it in a nutshell, Jonah1.There’s a difference between no genetically clean lines and doubling and trebling up on carrier lines of a genetic health issue and a bad one too. I can’t understand for the life of me why anyone would want to do this.Does no body check lineage before a mating nowadays?

Why DuvalGSD? There was good stuff on that thread

I was joking i'm not a MOD  your thread is not in your history of making post??