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by Videx on 14 March 2010 - 14:03
by noddi on 14 March 2010 - 15:03

by hutch on 14 March 2010 - 20:03

by Videx on 14 March 2010 - 21:03
14 March 2010:
Here it is the last day at Crufts 2010.. I feel totally humiliated. At 76 years old and what? 40 years in the breed? Because a kennel club official and their Vet said my 5 month old baby GSD was unsound and they did not want her to be on a display team which the members of the public would see and which the K.C. felt was not the "sort of German Shepherd" they wanted the General Public to see I was asked to leave. Yes... Get out FAST ... leave the show. No questions of not going in the team again but "Get Out" ... LEAVE" How humiliating is that? A 5 month old baby? Loose yes ... Unsound at 5 months? possibly but 110% sound in character, 110 % sound in working ability - exactly WHAT are the K.C. looking for? Here we have 110% soundness of character - even the KC Official said that - but because she is a baby and loose I get banished from Crufts 2010. For my part - lets get away from this beauocracy and stupidness. We can do without it.
An emotionally shattered and humiliated lifelong GSD enthusiast
Pam Edgington
by noddi on 14 March 2010 - 23:03
by nugget on 15 March 2010 - 07:03
A point I would like to make however is this.
Notwithstanding the obvious, life threatening problems that the KC have allowed to develop in certain well documented cases, when comparing other working breeds to the GSD you see massive concerns and anomalies.
I don't own GSD's from Showlines, and it is fair to say my Working Line dogs do not have any of the features that concern me in SOME GSD showlines (temperament issues, size, exaggerated top lines etc) which only concern me from the perspective of working ability. I do not consider the modern "Alsatian" a GSD so won't mention that animal here.
Compared to some other working breeds, nevertheless, the difference between my Working Line Dog anatomically and the average Showline is pretty minimal.
This was brought to my attention on the way back on the courtesy bus from Crufts. At my club I train a couple of Rottis- very athletic, able and praiseworthy animals. Medium size and with all the attributes of an able working dog.
On the bus I met a very friendly. but HUGE Rott that looked more like a Mastiff to me that the dogs I train. The dogs prominent feature was a massive head that did not look characteristic of that Breed as I know it. The owners were talking and I overheard that the Judge "hadn't liked" the bigger dogs today. I looked at the Breed Standard and the dog was way off in terms of size. (but must have qualified to be at Crufts) If this dog was representitive of a Showline Rottie, they have bigger (pardon the pun) problems than us.
Things are not as bad in our backyard as the KC would advocate.
Nugget
by noddi on 15 March 2010 - 08:03

by pod on 15 March 2010 - 09:03
I think it is shameful of the KC to use the GSD as an example, and proof of how they are addressing health concerns in dogs. There are far more deserving breeds that seem to be escaping without notice. That said, there is no doubt that the GSD does have constructional exaggerations that are a result of breeding for the sole function of winning in the ring. When such eminent scientist as prof Patrick Bateson refer to the breed as exaggerated, then time has come to view this for what it is and not be sidetracked the KC politics.
by Jonah1 on 15 March 2010 - 09:03
Albeit thers a size limit ---- oversize dont kill tha dogs . Easy fer tha alsatians ta be unda tha size limit wen they breed tha front legs sa short like tha corgis !.
Yeh Noddi ---- different stance styles giv different pictures an tha harda tha dogs pull on tha leads tha more the middle o tha back has ta bend up aye.
A video made an published of tha same dog handled in tha different styles wuld help put tha kennel clubs pathetic vendetta on movement ta bed aye !. Betta still to ave 1 GSD an 1 Alsatian on video ta show how they both look sa different wen handled in both styles aye !!!!!!!!!.
AS FER CLAIRE BALDING SHE SHULD BE MADE TA MEET THA B.O.B DOG ERSELF IN PERSON WITH THA T.V. FILMING ----- THEN DARN WELL RETRACT HER WRONG STATEMENT PUBLICALLY AYE !!!!!!!!!!!.
LETS GIV THA KC A CHALLENGE WI THAR PREFERRED BELOVED ALSATIANS TA SHOW US HOW MANY OF EM AV THA TEMP, CHARACTER AN CAPABILITY TA WORK LIKE THA BOB WINNER !!!!!!. BE REAL INTERESTIN TA SEE HOW MANY DOGS THEY CAN FIND ESP HEALTH TESTED UNS AYE !!!!!!!!!.
by noddi on 15 March 2010 - 10:03
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