Herding lines?

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by bearbear on 18 February 2010 - 05:02

Can anyone tell me if there are any bloodlines that still have herding instincts? We'd like to find a GSD that will work livestock. Thanks!

by leeshideaway on 18 February 2010 - 05:02

Hi,

Here are a few links worth looking at.

herding thread with Ulf

Ulf's herding dog

www.whitecloversheepfarm.com/

Lee

by AmbiiGSD on 18 February 2010 - 07:02

Mine do via their bitchline.

Not that I've ever had the chance to do any herding.

by Mackenzie on 18 February 2010 - 09:02

Probably the most well known kennel using herding lines is v Kirschental. They still work their dogs with their sheep. I think they have about 2000 and Karl Fuller who is in his eighties works their dogs every day. Their website is in english at
www.kirschental.de and it is worth looking at.

Mackenzie

by Dash2 on 18 February 2010 - 09:02

Here's a link to someone who's done a bit of herding with her GSDs:

http://members.cox.net/gsdvominsel/

From what I gather from people who do herding instinct testing, it's still very alive and well in a lot of today's GSDs. You would want to look for lines that have dogs who are fairly agile and not too large or heavy.

Dash2

by Ryanhaus on 18 February 2010 - 12:02

My dogs still have the herding instinct, I was going sheep herding with my dog Theo von Ryan, and he got his HIC.

I am bringing probably 4 others to get their HIC in June, it's alot of fun.

I am going to try & title Theo in herding, but I am also trying to title him in ScH, I have so many dogs, that I am limited in time spent for serious training for everyone, I am happy with the basics.

I find sheep herding very addictive, and very rewarding for the dog.

Here is a video of Theo sheep herding for the second time in his whole life, he was one years old, I bred him, but he was returned back to me at 7 months old after being abused, and was afraid of men, so I took him sheep herding as a confidence builder. He is 4 1/2 years old now.

The guy in the tape was getting alittle pissed, cause Theo kept wanting to pull a sheep aside for his lunch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40aZPjAjSF0

by bearbear on 18 February 2010 - 14:02

Thank you all for your information. We have cattle and would like to try working them with a GSD, but didn't know what lines to look at. I appreciate all the links and videos. BTW, Theo is great!

Kathy

by Gustav on 18 February 2010 - 14:02

Try some of the older DDR lines as many of them were based in the old herding working lines. Especially some of the Grafental lines. They tend to have a strong herding instinct. Also look up the Vom Haus Kind kennel...ole school herding dogs from Germany.

by gieske on 18 February 2010 - 14:02

hi, I am not familar with herding training. What were you working towards in the video with Theo? Was he being trained to 'get out' and leave the sheep alone?

thanks,

cindy

by Ryanhaus on 18 February 2010 - 18:02

Thank you Cathy!

Hi Cindy, Theo was just learning what sheep were, that was the second time in his life he ever saw a sheep.
I was trying to build some confidence in him cause he had been an abused dog, he was only 1 years old at that time.
I had got him returned back to me when he was a 7 month old pup, with no confidence.

I started going sheep herding with him again a few years later, and found out that the man in the video was alittle hard on Theo, and that he doesn't need a heavy correction when he's sheep herding.
He's what you call a soft dog, and can be easily guided, with little correction.

A herding dog will always have the instinct to want a delicious lamb dinner, you just need to horn in on that, and remind him not to hurt any sheep, but to bring them to you, also I learned that GSD's are trained to go back & forth on a boarder along beside the sheep, and not to run circles around them as much as he was doing.

I am hoping in the future to get a herding title like a PT, on him, that's are next goal.

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