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by VomRuiz on 29 November 2009 - 23:11
I was wondering if some of the folks who breed for the show ring can tell me how soon (at what age) you can tell if a puppy will do well in the ring? Whether it is show quality or not?
I really like the conformation of my workingline puppy, but no matter how many times I look at the breed standard I am partial to a certain look (even if it is faulty.)
If I post a few pictures of her, would someone on here be able to critique her? She is only about 10 weeks old
Thanks in Advance,
Stacy
I really like the conformation of my workingline puppy, but no matter how many times I look at the breed standard I am partial to a certain look (even if it is faulty.)
If I post a few pictures of her, would someone on here be able to critique her? She is only about 10 weeks old
Thanks in Advance,
Stacy
by Sheesh on 29 November 2009 - 23:11
Of course!
Post pics!
Theresa

by DebiSue on 29 November 2009 - 23:11
Let's see her! After hearing what the judge had to say about several dogs I "might" be able to give a decent critique.
Deb
Deb

by VomRuiz on 30 November 2009 - 00:11
Thanks guys!!!!!!!!! Going to try to get some good shots of her now!

by Sunsilver on 30 November 2009 - 00:11
VomRuiz, even for experienced breeders, it's not always easy to tell at 8 weeks. Many a breeder has let a pup go to a new home, only to regret it when that pup beat the supposed pick of the litter, which he held back for himself.
Anyway, we'd love to see your pictures!
Anyway, we'd love to see your pictures!

by DebiSue on 30 November 2009 - 00:11
What Sunsilver says is very true. But the general consensus is, if the pup is correct at 8wks she will be correct when grown.

by VomRuiz on 30 November 2009 - 00:11
HA.
That was not as easy as I thought it was going to be! I went running off with the camera and puppy to get some outdoor shots and she decided to tear a huge hole in my pants (third pair in 2 and a half weeks I have had her) Turns out I couldn't get a stacked picture of her by myself so I'm adding a few pictures from outside and the only thing I could think of to try to get a stacked picture of her was putting her on my stairs, which she was uncertain about. you can tell from her expression she is not happy. And she was somewhat leaning on the stairs. I have bad luck with loading more than 2 pictures at a time so sorry in advance for posting a million times ;-)
Sunsilver, I wondered how much they change structurally from puppies to adults. That's why I was curious how early the experienced breeders can tell which of their puppies are going to be show quality and which are better suited as pets.
I know that some flaws are harder to see by the untrained eye. (Like mine lol) I think I am getting a little bit better, but I love to hear opinions, especially of the slight flaws. The obvious ones I can pick out. I know for example that my male is slightly cow hocked. Though I love the way he works, I cringe at his small stature (60 pounds full grown) and those back legs.
Anyway, Sorry for rambling on...Here is Indi, the best I could do for today
Thanks again everyone,
Stacy

by VomRuiz on 30 November 2009 - 00:11

by VomRuiz on 30 November 2009 - 00:11

by DebiSue on 30 November 2009 - 01:11
Stacy,
I'm going out on a limb by saying I think you have a fine pup here. I love her expression, she looks to have dark eyes and she has nice ears, well set on her head. Her head looks good. She is blocky, nice and wide, good bone. She has a nice chest and tuck. Her rear looks to be nicely angulated. I think her neck and the way it sets on her shoulder is good. I have trouble reading shoulders but I think her's is good, she is very well balanced. I think she has a correct croup and tail set and her pigment is good but her tan could be richer. But her color can change so it's hard to comment on that really. Her feet and pasterns/hocks look good. She has a good strong back. What I heard the judge say about working lines is the withers are too low. She would look better in a proper stack as far as that goes but I know how hard that is to get. If you start working with her now she will do it in the ring later. It will be like trying to rope the wind at first but use treats and she will figure it out quickly. I can now stack my girl and tell her to stay and walk away long enough to snap a pic. Worth it's weight in gold when you accomplish that trick!
Keep in mind that I am no expert but I do know what I like when I see it. She looks like a little power house and I would snatch this pup up, no problem!
And as for the experts, how did I do on critiquing this pup? Did I miss anything or blow it completely?
Deb
I'm going out on a limb by saying I think you have a fine pup here. I love her expression, she looks to have dark eyes and she has nice ears, well set on her head. Her head looks good. She is blocky, nice and wide, good bone. She has a nice chest and tuck. Her rear looks to be nicely angulated. I think her neck and the way it sets on her shoulder is good. I have trouble reading shoulders but I think her's is good, she is very well balanced. I think she has a correct croup and tail set and her pigment is good but her tan could be richer. But her color can change so it's hard to comment on that really. Her feet and pasterns/hocks look good. She has a good strong back. What I heard the judge say about working lines is the withers are too low. She would look better in a proper stack as far as that goes but I know how hard that is to get. If you start working with her now she will do it in the ring later. It will be like trying to rope the wind at first but use treats and she will figure it out quickly. I can now stack my girl and tell her to stay and walk away long enough to snap a pic. Worth it's weight in gold when you accomplish that trick!
Keep in mind that I am no expert but I do know what I like when I see it. She looks like a little power house and I would snatch this pup up, no problem!
And as for the experts, how did I do on critiquing this pup? Did I miss anything or blow it completely?
Deb
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