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by ashlynsmom on 28 November 2009 - 05:11

Hi there.  First, I would like to say that I know everyone is very busy so any time that you can spare to help is greatly appreciated.  Now, I am getting my first AKC registered GS puppy in January.  (I have had other GS but not registered).  I have the pedigree for both the sire and dam.  I have NO idea where to begin when thinking of a registered name.  Does anyone have any ideas? Do I use both the sire and dam's names? How far back in the pedigrees do I go when including names? I don't speak German so I'm having a hard time deciding which names to use because I don't know what any of them mean.  Also, as a call name, any ideas would be great.  We're looking for something different/unique....perhaps a German name?! Here's some information that might help....we'd like to base our puppy's name on something from this list... my husband is a police officer and this dog may become his K9, puppy was born in November, we're getting him in January, and he will hopefully be a friend and protector of our 15 month old daughter, Ashlyn.  Like I said, I know that as I am, everyone is very busy and your time is precious.  Any help or ideas you could give me would great.  Since this is our first registered GS, we just want the names (both registered and call) to be perfect!

Thanks (in advance),
Ashlyn'sMom

jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 28 November 2009 - 05:11

as a breeder,   all my dogs leave here with their registered names.  new owners can call them whatever they want, but they MUST carry my kennel name.  if it is a J litter all pups starte with that letter.   new owners are allowed to offer suggestions, but if i dont approve then they keep the name i picked.    

personally,, i would never use any name that someone else has used.   i would never name a dog that i get, and add on any dogs name "just because its in his pedigree".    if i buy a dog and they dont care what i name it,,, i make something up that has not been used.   respect for others is how i see it.  dont steal someone elses kennel name.

john

VomRuiz

by VomRuiz on 28 November 2009 - 21:11

Hello Ashlyn'sMom
Welcome to the forum! As John said some breeders will automatically add their kennel name as the front or end name. They just may not have told you this. For example if the kennel you purchased the dog from is called Smith's Kennel, they may insist you use that name on the resistration papers. Like "Smith's Max".  Or "Max of Smith Kennels"
Other kennels do not want their kennel name attached to the dog after it leaves (for whatever reason.) And also as John said, they may offer you a letter to choose from. If it is their A litter, they may tell you you can choose any name you like as long as it begins with the letter A, and they have not previously used it on another dog's registration papers.
Of course they cannot have two Smith's Ace. Whatever you have on the papers, you can have your dog's call name be anything you like.
If the breeder does not insist (or want) you to use their kennel name, many people use their last name, first name or combine different family member's names. Then  you can use whatever you like.
But be original, as you said you want to, because if your name choice has already been used, either you will be told you cannot use it or they will add a Roman numeral to the end automatically. For example there are probably dozen's of Smith's Tyson, so the kennel registry may make his name Smith's Max VIII.
So being original is important. Also, you can contact the registry and make sure that the front or end name is not currently being used by another kennel. If you like the sound of say, Jaeger you could ask one of the German people on the board to incorporate you last name in there (like Jaeger vom Haus Smith or Jaeger von Smith Haus) I don't speak any German so have also had to ask for help with naming.
If you like German sounding human names, you could always pull up a baby name list online and narrow it down to German names, then read the meaning and see if it's something you like.
You could also pull up an online translator and put in a word (like strong or noble) and see what comes up. Best of Luck, and we'd love to see pictures when he arrives!

Stacy


JRANSOM

by JRANSOM on 29 November 2009 - 00:11

Yes, please do let us know what you've chosen for a name and post pictures!
BTW, great advice from both.

Jen

by ashlynsmom on 29 November 2009 - 02:11

Thanks for your advice.  I hadn't even thought that my breeder might already assign a registered name.  We've been looking on baby websites and dog naming websites but haven't come up with anything that we both agree on.  We'll definitely post pictures when he arrives along with his name (if we ever come up with something)!

Thanks for your time and advice.
Ashlyn'sMom

VomRuiz

by VomRuiz on 29 November 2009 - 13:11

No problem, after I posted I saw how long winded my post was. I hope it wasn't confusing. There is a Name Picker on here too, under the Collections tab. Good luck and can't wait to see the little guy. Do you have his pedigree on here yet (or the pedigree of his parents?)

Stacy

Vinegarjoe

by Vinegarjoe on 29 November 2009 - 23:11

Hi-

I would contact the breeder and see which litter your puppy is coming from. (As previously mentioned, if its your breeders "G" litter than your pup's name has to start with a "G")

Once you know which litter it is then you should be able to narrow down how you choose your pup's name.

If your breeder won't allow you to pick the name, then if you don't like the registration name give by the breeder, you can select your dogs "call name".

If your dog may be a K-9, odds are the breeder may let you guys pick the pups name.

as an aside, is your husband's agency paying for the puppy or is it being donated by the breeder ? 

good luck.

vinegarjoe

DebiSue

by DebiSue on 30 November 2009 - 00:11

Some breeders want their name on the dog so they can keep track of it down the line.  Some won't let you use their name in case you do something they don't want coming back on them.  The woman who bred my girl's parents was livid when I called her to get info (which she did not want to provide since I didn't buy direct from her).  She tried to tell me my girl wasn't from her lines & I explained I did have the pedigree and the parents both have her kennel name in their registered names.  She went off on me because the breeder didn't have her permission to use her kennel name so it couldn't be so.  Well, it is so.  He didn't list them as Noblecroft's so & so.  He listed them as King Samson Noblecroft Givens and Queenie Delilah Noblecroft Givens.  He gave their call names first, her kennel name then his last name.  So there are ways of using a kennel name despite a breeder's permission or lack of it.  He was clueless when we asked him what letter litter it was.  He is a BYB and has been less than helpful since the purchase.  (Live and learn)  John Letcher controls things by naming his dogs himself which I think is best.  Like he said, you can call it whatever you want.  I didn't want to use Noblecroft on Echo since the kennel owner was so unhappy about it and besides, we wanted to honor our previous girl, Airin so we named her Morgan's Echo of Airin.  So she has our name only which is fine by me.   
Deb

JRANSOM

by JRANSOM on 30 November 2009 - 01:11

It's probably a male right?  You don't see many K-9 females.  So then that would narrow it down to only male names.
Just thinking ahead...if he does become a k-9 police dog, and does his job well then you would want to say "thank you", right?
Why not call him Ty, get it?   Or is that lame?  It is different and unique.

GSDGenetics

by GSDGenetics on 30 November 2009 - 05:11

When naming your dog, you have the option of using the name of the kennel you got the dog from (unless the kennel owner objects), using both the name of the kennel your dog came from and your own kennel name, such as this fictional  example ...Winzalot's Beau vom EnGarde, where Winzalot would be your kennel name, Beau would be the dog's own name, and EnGarde would be the breeder kennel name.
You can also elect to use your own kennel name in the dog's registered name.  Winzalot's Beau or in German style, Beau zun Winzalot (zum meaning "to", not "from")

Under the SV system, German breeders pups are given names when the breed warden inspects them and first enters the individuals of that litter into the official SV zuchtbuch.  Litters are named alphabetically, individual pups in a litter must all have names that start with the letter for that litter, followed by the breeder's kennel name.

Many serious breeders of AKC German Shepherds also have similar systems they use, although they either must individually register the puppies with chosen names before sale, or request buyers to follow the breeder's system of naming.  The buyer however has total choice of how to name a puppy that is litter registered but not yet individually registered, as long as the name choice complies with basic AKC rules that forbids profanity names, etc. 
Alphabetical naming is the easiest way for a breeder to keep track of dogs and litters over the years, and to know which litter a particular dog was out of when asked about that dog, or when he sees that dog has won some title, etc.


At the MINIMUM, you should give your dog a call name and add some kind of choice of kennel name, whether or not you ever intend to have more than one dog, choosing your own kennel name and putting it on a dog you register, automatically implies that you are more serious and have a better quality of dog and more knowledge than someone whose dog is named Mack XXXVII or Princess Sheba LXVI for example..Should you bteed your dog, a dog whose name is Winzalot's Beau in a pedigree, implies better quality than a dog whose name lacks a kennel name.

Beyond the need for a kennel name, I've found that a dog's individual name often has come to me suddenly, spontaneously, even when trying to think up a name brought no results. You may see or hear or read something, or your dog may do something, that will make you suddenly say "Thats IT." and the name that just popped into your mind will be perfect!






 


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